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Clathana
Posts: 112/222
I think Michael Jackson was not guilty...and I think he is also gay!!!
Gannondorf
Posts: 15/32
Personally i dont think hes a child molestor but i do think his gay or bi
Xeios
Posts: 641/2954
Hey, Jackson deserved to get off scott free. There really was no proof. And the parents really shouldn't be able to do anything about it. its about time those assholes let him get along with his life. I mena, his whole world is screwed up for ever having to go to court for his 'crime' twice.
avatar of law
Posts: 175/486
what would make you say that? i've never said he was innocent or anything like that. i've truthfully have only heard his songs once in a blue moon, even if that...

i dont even know much about the guy or his music, or anything like that. what makes you think i'm a big fan -.-' i didnt say anything that would fall in his favor.
Azen Dalin
Posts: 170/324
Originally posted by avatar of law
actually, it's not because they "needed the money" i mean, they're already making millions already by that time. what kept him going was his religion, "obey thy father and thy mother." he took it to the extreme.


Okay, but you've got to admit, Jackson was scared of his father. I mean the guy was abusive...and if its religion that kept him going, that can be just as strong as fear.

*Laughs* Avatar, are you a big Jackson fan??
Elara
Posts: 1124/9734
It is legal if your PARENTS give it to you on your property. Michael Jackson gave it to him on his property, is not his parent, and he gave it to him disguised in a soda can and didn't tell him what it really was. You gotta admit that is a bit odd.

avatar of law
Posts: 163/486
actually, it's not because they "needed the money" i mean, they're already making millions already by that time. what kept him going was his religion, "obey thy father and thy mother." he took it to the extreme.
Azen Dalin
Posts: 151/324
Originally posted by avatar of law
Originally posted by Shuyin
Its not legal in america.¬_¬

The prosecution's evidence was weak. It was all 'he said, she said.' It was their word against Michael's. Which really isn't much in a criminal law case. The jury did their job correctly. To have given Michael guilty, they would have needed beyond a reasonable doubt . Beyond a reasonable doubt is hard to decide, expecially without proof. People are ranting off about money and such, but it really has nothing to do with it.

The prosecution messed up their chances by trying to nail him for the first charge.


yeah, that's the hard thing about molestation. rape you can easily do with DNA and all that other junk, but molestation is another ballgame. yeah, reasonable doubt is hard, but still, a hung jury was what i was expecting.

and yeah, what does your mom giving you wine when you were younger have to do with anything? who says it's wrong? it's against the law is what it is. the law has nothing to do with what's "right," it's what THE MAN has decided that it is illegal is all. being illegal and right is not the same thing. and plus, this isnt italy, germany or france, it's america. and if you want to follow suit through that logic, then don't chew gum anymore because it's illegal in singapore...

but yeah, i feel sorry for him losing his childhood and all that, but deal! i mean, once he made all that money, he could've easily stopped and went on with his life at the age of 18 when he was a legal adult, but nope, he didnt.


True...true. Actually, its not illegal in the Southern states if you're on YOUR property and YOUR parents are giving it to you. Anyways, I was just stating that there really isn't a lot wrong with alcohol...THE MAN just makes it seem worse than it is.

Anyways, yes, he could have gone at 18...but you also have to realize what kind of man his father was. He made Michael believe that he HAD to do it because his family needed the money. You don't realize what kind of fear a father like that can actually put into his children.
avatar of law
Posts: 161/486
Originally posted by Shuyin
Its not legal in america.¬_¬

The prosecution's evidence was weak. It was all 'he said, she said.' It was their word against Michael's. Which really isn't much in a criminal law case. The jury did their job correctly. To have given Michael guilty, they would have needed beyond a reasonable doubt . Beyond a reasonable doubt is hard to decide, expecially without proof. People are ranting off about money and such, but it really has nothing to do with it.

The prosecution messed up their chances by trying to nail him for the first charge.


yeah, that's the hard thing about molestation. rape you can easily do with DNA and all that other junk, but molestation is another ballgame. yeah, reasonable doubt is hard, but still, a hung jury was what i was expecting.

and yeah, what does your mom giving you wine when you were younger have to do with anything? who says it's wrong? it's against the law is what it is. the law has nothing to do with what's "right," it's what THE MAN has decided that it is illegal is all. being illegal and right is not the same thing. and plus, this isnt italy, germany or france, it's america. and if you want to follow suit through that logic, then don't chew gum anymore because it's illegal in singapore...

but yeah, i feel sorry for him losing his childhood and all that, but deal! i mean, once he made all that money, he could've easily stopped and went on with his life at the age of 18 when he was a legal adult, but nope, he didnt.
Shuyin
Posts: 172/1858
Its not legal in america.¬_¬

The prosecution's evidence was weak. It was all 'he said, she said.' It was their word against Michael's. Which really isn't much in a criminal law case. The jury did their job correctly. To have given Michael guilty, they would have needed beyond a reasonable doubt . Beyond a reasonable doubt is hard to decide, expecially without proof. People are ranting off about money and such, but it really has nothing to do with it.

The prosecution messed up their chances by trying to nail him for the first charge.
Azen Dalin
Posts: 126/324
Going into the psychiatrics of this entire subject, Michael has the "Peter Pan" complex. Basically, he never wants to grow up and believes himself to be a child as well. He doesn't really think that playing with other kids is a bad thing, because to him they all seem about the same age (mentally) as him.

Now, as far as him being a child molestor there is A LOT of evidence built up against him. Not only that, but it is true that people with the PPC have been known to be child molestors. They believe that its just showing a certian type of "affection" or "love" for the child.

So, before you say, "He's a sick-ass psycho-path" you do have to look at what he's been through. His father was an ass, he was robbed of his childhood...I wouldn't doubt it if his father molested him. Now you can offically say, "He's a sick-ass physco-path."

I agree with Deese on that one fact that a good sentence in jail would straighten him out (or turn him gay). Either way, its sad.

Oh, and for everyone's information...its not wrong to give a kid a glass of wine. My mom used to give me wine when I was younger. UNLESS, you decide that you're going to knock the kid out and rape them...then that's wrong. Otherwise, there's no point in arguing that "Jesus Juice" is horrible. In Italy, Germany, and France children do drink. Then again...this is Michael Jackson. XD
Rauni
Posts: 328/1351
My response was that how would a Jury find all 10 counts not guilty? Surely, everyone break almost every type of rules and that isn't going well either. Now what, we get to hear that Micheal Jackson rigged the Jury by wasting nearly all of those months to hire someone who will help Micheal Jackson escapes charges?

Holy crap, I think I figure something out.
Belial
Posts: 75/647
Originally posted by avatar of law
Originally posted by Shuyin
He was found not guilty.

Booyah bitches


being found not guilty isn't the same as being innocent. the criminal system has its flaws


yeah, when I found out, I said, "So he really had an awesome lawyer, huh?"
avatar of law
Posts: 159/486
Originally posted by Shuyin
He was found not guilty.

Booyah bitches


being found not guilty isn't the same as being innocent. the criminal system has its flaws
Elara
Posts: 1090/9734
What I find sad is that he got "not guilty" on all ten charges. I mean, how could he get off on giving the kid wine? They know he did that! Argh!

Oh well, money talks and power walks, and that is what is wrong with the world.
Shuyin
Posts: 166/1858
He was found not guilty.

Booyah bitches
WhiteRose
Posts: 153/1461
I honestly don't care. I've seen this so mcu on the enws I'm getting sick and tired of it. The only reason this is so big is because he is famous. Had it been any other person, it might have had a single mentioning on the news and then most likely dropped. Just leave the people at home alone, I'm sure not all of us care.
Bitmap
Posts: 14/7838
Guilty

He came to court an hour and a half late, and was wearing his pajamas....nuff said....
Shuyin
Posts: 28/1858
I picked non-guilty.

Not because I believe he's innocent, but because he has yet to be proven guilty.

Most of you would be terrible on a jury. Our constitution states you are innocent until proven guilty. Most of you are basing your judgements on his appearance and his past, not on the evidence in the current trial.

Thinking someone is 'weird' is not basis enough to label them guilty.

When you're labeling someone guilty, you have to have beyond a reasonable doubt that they're guilty. Stating that someone is guilty because you want to get things over with is wrong and unconstitutional.

I can't say that he's guilty, because I still have doubts about the evidence against him.
Jareth
Posts: 21/49
didnt he give the childs family a whole lot of money, for his cancer. he should get some ass.lol. j/k...he's a nut job.
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