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Rauni









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Posted on 03-16-05 12:51 PM Link | Quote
Alright... I want everyone to make this a fair "contest" and try not to say anything stupid. Okay, I want a person who play BOTH games and just not vote for Zelda completely (Only if you play both Fire Emblem and Zelda, your vote count) . And just to make thing fair too, a battle between character count too.

Also, alot of other stuff applies like the graphic, music, etc. will count this poll.

Okay here it goes nothing.

I pick Fire Emblem:

Graphic: While Zelda have good graphic and stuff, and Fire Emblem 1-3 and 6-8 have all good graphic, the best I seen for a SNES was Genealogy of the Holy War and Thrica 776. Those map sprite were WAY better and some of Zelda (both modern and classic) doesn't really approve much for me.

Character Battle: Definely Fire Emblem. Why? Link, Zelda, Shiek, etc can't really fight the numerous Roy, Rutger, Marcus, Old Marcus, Athos, Myrrh, Mars (a.k.a. Marth), Sheena, Sigurd, Beowulf, Dermud, Celice, Eliwood, Guy, Lyn, Dierdre, Fury, Alm, Erirka, Ross, Cuan, Ethlin, Leaf, Hector, Othlin, Owsin, Deu, Canas, Alec, Noish, Lex, Azel, Finn, etc.

Character: I don't like much about Zelda's character. It is pretty straight-forward and lack few type of charactisc. Fire Emblem have plenty of Fire Emblem character to provide, even they have a small role, they does provide feeling to the game.

Storyline: Whoa... Zelda is about saving the world or some are like that. Fire Emblem? WAY different. Think about it... Fire Emblem 7 was killing the dragon but actually stopping Nergal and his crazy ass plan. Fire Emblem 4... is the best. You play as Sigurd, try to recuse Elina (whatever her name is spelled.) get involve more into the war, marked as a traitor, try to save Deirdre, see Cuan and Ethlin get killed for trying to assist Sigurd, and Sigurd's army is dead, thanks to the bastard, Alvis. And afterward, Sigurd's son take over. Fire Emblem provide a better storyline.

Music: While Zelda's music wasn't heard alot, I was hooked on Fire Emblem: Geneaology of the Holy War music. My favorite? Chapter 3's field music.

That's why I choose Fire Emblem. Heck, I think it is that cool and completely the best (but not of the best.).
Astrophel
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Posted on 03-16-05 08:43 PM Link | Quote
Worst. Poll. Ever.

You're comparing two completely different types of games. Last I checked, Fire Emblem was a turn-based strategy game, while Zelda is an action/adventure game.

If you don't see the problem there, read over those two sentences repeatedly until you do. =/
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Posted on 03-16-05 08:49 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Beowulf Cor Leonis
Music: While Zelda's music wasn't heard alot, I was hooked on Fire Emblem: Geneaology of the Holy War music. My favorite? Chapter 3's field music.


I'm not sure what Zelda games you've played, but each of them surpass amazement within the realm of sound and music.

Seriously, Link's Awakening? The Tal Tal Mountains theme in that game is one of my favorite Zelda themes, and that games for the GB, and it still has awesome music.

Anyways, I have to agree with Tamarin about the poll, way different games.

But, in favoritism, I'll go with Zelda, easily.

Zelda > All.


(Last edited by The Xeogred on 03-16-05 11:49 PM)
Astrophel
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Posted on 03-16-05 08:51 PM Link | Quote
Just an added note to my post, since I remembered The Politicians "Battle of the Games" polls. He didn't compare them, he just asked for everyone's opinion. You're trying to compare them. =/
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Posted on 03-16-05 09:02 PM Link | Quote
Well I wouldn't really say this is an official "Battle of the Game Dudes" poll, but yeah it just doesn't really work.

So really, I'm betting most people will just pick their "favorite" of the two.
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Posted on 03-17-05 07:50 AM Link | Quote
Naturally they will. I chose Zelda though...

Ignoreing the fact that Action and Turn Based are being presented, Fire Emblem has some decent story, and the game play is humourous. Theres enough characters that even a Turn Based Star. hating person could love atleast one of the characters.

Zelda, on the other hand, has inevating storylines, all characters are hard NOT to love, the music can easily blow away anyone. This is just about any of the Zelda games. (Except the first, which didn't have an obvious story, lol. Magic of the NES.)
Rauni









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Posted on 03-17-05 02:26 PM Link | Quote
I hate to say it guys, but I thought it would be interesting to ask. You can't say I am trying to compare them together.

Listen... both Zelda AND Fire Emblem came from Nintendo companies, and hence, I would see which you would pick.

SECOND, you guys doesn't even read the post I said before. I want people who play BOTH games. Not just one. Not only that, you also failed to mention everything I said before. You got to count the graphic, the storyline, etc. into your post.

Third, if you just play one game of Zelda or Fire Emblem, puh-lease. You never give either a chance. Look, Zelda has some good music. It is just that... the music doesn't really work for me. While I have played some Zelda game, I am just seeing how that Zelda have so many good games, but lack in serious straight-forward plot. (It does have a plot, I know...). And even through Zelda have a good graphic, sometime it just seem too... underrated. (No offense guy, but I am not just into 3D style. All of those damn block kept blocking my views.)

Okay, fine... Let's me hear that you only play one Fire Emblem game and mostly Zelda game. Hey, you didn't give Fire Emblem a chance and look where they are.

And look, you never give Fire Emblem a chance. Try playing Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War and get to Chapter 3. You will like that music. Trust me, I do.

Or is it because you never try a Mamkute before? I do. And if I would have to play with just a single Mamkute, it would be more fun to play with just one and see how they would kick everyone's ass.

And Xeogred, if Zelda > All, then we would be playing in Zelda era. Just for your information.
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Posted on 03-17-05 02:50 PM Link | Quote
Beo, it seems more to me that you're just mad that Fire Emblem is not winning.
First of all, everybody who voted and posted in this thread never said that they did not play both games. Therefore, you have no right to assume that they are being biased towards Zelda because they've only played Zelda. Second, just because they didn't include storyline or graphics in their post doesn't mean they didn't bring this into account at all. They simply may have forgotten to say it or they couldn't be bothered to say it.

Anyway, if you couldn't be bothered to read what I just said, here it is in a nutshell. Just because Zelda is currently winning doesn't mean that people haven't bothered to try Fire Emblem. Heck, i played Fire Emblem quite a few times before. But I still perfer Zelda.

And Xeogred is just a little Zelda fanboy. He probably has posters of Zelda all over his room, considering he still has enough space on his walls, which are currently smothered with Kasumi (nude?) pics. *wink wink* So just ignore that whole "Zelda>All" statement.


(Last edited by Sparda on 03-17-05 05:52 PM)
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Posted on 03-17-05 02:59 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sparda
And Xeogred is just a little Zelda fanboy. He probably has posters of Zelda all over his room, considering he still has enough space on his walls, which are currently smothered with Kasumi (nude?) pics. *wink wink* So just ignore that whole "Zelda>All" statement.


1. Nah, but I have a few shirts.
2. I do have a Lei Fang DOAX poster, too much to put up though.

And to be fair Beo, it's hard to compare these games. We've got tons of Zelda games out there, and they've all made it over the States and have been successful, unlike Fire Emblem. There's several Fire Emblem games for the SNES, but were just never released here Stateside so we didn't get to play them, unless you can read Japanese.

So what I'm saying is ... there's what, a few Fire Emblem games for the GBA? And yeah, they're making one for the GC, and personally I think it looks really great.

But Zelda, we've got Zelda games on the NES, SNES, N64, GB, GBA, GC, and more. So I'm sure the majority of us have played a Zelda over the possiblity of playing a Fire Emblem game.

I have played one of the games for the GBA, and I will admit, yes it's pretty good. Did I play much? Somewhat, it was only through emulation ...

But even so, the Zelda series currently has a lot more to offer us than the Fire Emblem series because there's more of it to play.

I guess that might sound funny, but just making a point I guess ...
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Posted on 03-17-05 07:12 PM Link | Quote
Being a big Zelda fan I have to pick that...
Plus Zelda has a LOT more games than Fire emblem and fire emblem get on my nerves some times when im playing it.
Astrophel
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Posted on 03-18-05 07:36 AM Link | Quote
I haven't played Fire Emblem, and I didn't vote. I simply attempted to point out the obvious flaws in your comparison.

So they both come from a Nintendo company? Alright, then. Let's take another comparison along those lines. Compare Metroid and Pokemon. Oh, wait. Two completely different games, so you can't.


And yes, if you want to hit me for using Pokemon as part of the comparison, you can go ahead.
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Posted on 03-18-05 08:51 AM Link | Quote
*Hits Tamarin with a stuffed Pikachu*

Just had too.

And I'm not voting. I've only played bits of a Fire Embelm game (a friends), so I "can't" vote.
Rauni









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Posted on 03-19-05 08:45 AM Link | Quote
Tamarin, you should stop bothering me because I am getting sick of you annoying me everytime I make something that I must feel about.

And you honestly want comparison!? Here is some:

NES Graphic:

Fire Emblem: I didn't like it as much. It was just as horrible. Beside that it was a long time ago graphic. I didn't like it was much as some NES game. This give Zelda a upper hand because there are some Fire Emblem mess up on some part!

Zelda: Honestly, this game got an upper hand.

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SNES Graphic:

Fire Emblem: Whoa... Fire Emblem 4 and 5 look way much better than any games I honestly played. The graphic, the look, everything is done nearly prefectly.

Zelda: Eh... comparing to Fire Emblem's graphic, it is not that good. Link look too weird.

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Gamecube:

To be foretold. (Zelda seem cooler too. Who know? Maybe Fire Emblrem screw up the graphic.)

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Storyline, Plot: (Highlight the spoiler.)
Spoiler:

Wow... Zelda isn't huge in storyline. Beside getting few things, it seem hardly effortless beat the game if you know what you are doing.

Fire Emblem? Whoa, this stay on the story. (Except Fire Emblem 6 and 7. They messed that up. You can't go backward in the past without messing the storyline a little. ) Sigurd fight to save Elina, instead he was involve a country war (but he saved her anyway). Then the country mark him as a traitor because of his father's action, Dierdre was taken, etc. etc., and guess what? Say goodbye to Sigurd's army because they are dead. Instead, of saying Game Over, Sigurd's son took over. However, Fin wasn't dead yet... because he was protecting Cuan and Ethlin's son, Leaf, at that time.

And in Fire Emblem 5, it show that Leaf pick up where after Fire Emblem 4 event. The war isn't still over yet.


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Character:

This isn't going to be any comparison. But I don't care if this does or does not support my reason.

Fire Emblem have several characters. Each have their own motives. Unlike Zelda's Link, they actually talk and Link doesn't say a damn word beside when he get hit. Beside, it is much better to hear all of those support conversation because it happened to help the storyline as well. You don't trust me? Hey, try Canas' and that Renault's (the last bishop I believe.) support. Read the whole thing until you get an A for their support or by website.

Spoiler:
Renault's history is bizarre. He killed Lucius' father, was Wallace teacher, and is over 100 years old. This also explain that he can take out Bartre with just one punch.


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Battle System / Engine:

This isn't the best comparison. I simply knew that.
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Xeogred... If you think I read most Japanese... let just say... I made a deal someone can't refused it.

Plus, Beowulf was also in Fire Emblem 4. And get this, I has a wife. O_o Apparently, my lover and I died. But here's Beowulf anyway.

Image hosted by Photobucket.com Yep... look like I kick ass... (And yes, this IS Fire Emblem 4. It is now translated to English.)

Well, I hope this is much of a "comparison you all seek from me".
Astrophel
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Posted on 03-19-05 10:39 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Beowulf Cor Leonis
Tamarin, you should stop bothering me because I am getting sick of you annoying me everytime I make something that I must feel about.

And you honestly want comparison!?



First, I'm not flaming, trolling, or spamming. And therefore, since I am fully within the rules in my posts here, I don't have to stop "bothering you".

Second, you misread my post entirely. I'm not even gonna bother explaining the damn thing, considering how badly you screwed up the meaning of it.

Edit: Irony here. None of my posts were off-topic until I posted this one saying none of them were off-topic. Go figure.


(Last edited by Tamarin Calanis on 03-19-05 01:42 PM)
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