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Since: 08-16-04
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Posted on 09-04-05 12:59 PM Link
It's not like it'd kill us if we were the first one to implement a format.

I simply suggested this because everyone has a certain style. The problem with that is that the styles can be and sometimes are too different. Certain people will get into a whole lot of detail and ever aspect of the game while others will become extraordinarily vague.

For example, you cover every aspect of a game in a review. Shaddow does so too but relies heavily on screenshots. Sajin hardly bothers with sound and stuff like that. Just the parts he thinks is most important. And others split their reviews into different subcategories...subcategories that may not be the same as say, your reviews.

One review will have something that another doesn't. One review will cover more than another. And so on and so forth. In the end, it just becomes really confusing and annoying where as if we were to implement a set format, no review would be lacking when compared to another because the reviewer couldn't be bothered to include this and that.


(Last edited by Sparda on 09-04-05 04:01 PM)
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering









Since: 10-03-04
From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta

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Posted on 09-04-05 01:12 PM Link
The closest I'd go to agreeing with your idea is requiring that every review cover a few basic areas - that is, Introduction (a little about the game), Sound, Graphics, Gameplay/Controls, Value, Story (when important; mostly RPGs). And since the submissions have to be reviewed by site staff before they're posted, you can weed out the ones that don't have enough information in them. I won't say that you have no clue what you're talking about; your reasoning makes sense, I simply disagree with the idea of making everything effectively the same.


(Last edited by Tamarin Calanis on 09-04-05 04:13 PM)
BBQMissile

ChaoticDeath









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Posted on 09-04-05 02:00 PM Link
Well, when I said format, i really meant what you just said. I feel that as long as each review covers certain categories/sub categories, then there should be no problem. I agree that making everything the same would be very boring and stupid. That wasn't what I was trying to get at.

I believe you basically listed all the important categories. If Xeo agrees to this, then we could probably make each area required in a review.
Banned
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Since: 08-17-04

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Posted on 09-04-05 04:02 PM Link
*rolls eyes* Take it outside boys... you're all basically spamming the review thread... All I did was copy the format of somebody else... I provided screenshots 'cause I felt like it, and 'cause I was allready taking a bunch with my emulator...

Sure Xeo, I was going to ask how the hell to copy them over. ^^
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering









Since: 10-03-04
From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta

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Posted on 09-04-05 04:27 PM Link
Since the site's up, and Xeo can't post the reviews himself without getting credit for them, I don't even see what purpose this thread serves, other than a quick copy-paste option for people to transfer their reviews...

Shaddow: Submit Article, Videogames for category, and... well, the rest better be obvious or I'm gonna hurt you. Or I just forgot something.
Xeoman

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Since: 08-14-04
From: 255

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Posted on 09-04-05 08:03 PM Link
Yeah, this thread is pretty pointless now, I'll probably close it once the format discussion is over.

But, I'm in agreement with Sparda on this. Yeah, I think it's fine if people spend more time talking in some area's like Graphics, or whatever, but I think it would be good if we had a Recommended Format to follow.

Really though, I think Sparda has it nailed.
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Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Square Enix
Rated T
Action/RPG genre
Platform: Playstation 2 exclusive

Out of a possible 10:

Graphics: 8/10
Sound: 6/10
Control: 8/10
Difficulty: 6/10
Story: 7/10

Overall (not an average): 7/10


So basically:
Game Title
Publisher / Developer
Rating
Genre
System

Scale of 0 to 10

Graphics: x/x
Sound: x/x
Control: x/x
Difficulty: x/x
Story: x/x

Overall score: x/x


[introduction to the game, series, what to expect, etc]

Then discussion and key points on the traits (graphics, sound, control, difficulty, story, etc)

[closing statement, "Overall" basically]

I mean, it's not like we'd delete your review or not submit it if you don't completely follow this form, but I'd like to recommend we try our best to follow it.
Stitch

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Dr. Thread Killa, to you.
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Since: 08-20-04
From: Manhattan, NYC, ASA, Terran

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Posted on 09-05-05 07:33 AM Link
Damn it. The only two games I've played I can't talk about. Damn you all.

Ultimate Spider-Man
Activision/Treyarch:
Read the website. Able to play as both Spider-Man and Venom. Great game. Can't divulge anything else, I signed an agreement and can lose my job.

Project Y
Activision/???:
Can't tell you the name of the game. Can't tell you what the game does. Can tell you that it's an awesome game, and the best one so far in its series. I like the XBOX Live version of it, but prefer the XBOX 360 version because of the better graphics.

In conclusion, as soon as the games are released, I'll fork over my professional opinion. Till then, you get that. Yay!


(Last edited by Zabuza on 09-05-05 10:34 AM)
Xeoman

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Since: 08-14-04
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Posted on 09-06-05 03:51 PM Link
Originally posted by XeoLord
Yeah, this thread is pretty pointless now, I'll probably close it once the format discussion is over.

But, I'm in agreement with Sparda on this. Yeah, I think it's fine if people spend more time talking in some area's like Graphics, or whatever, but I think it would be good if we had a Recommended Format to follow.

Really though, I think Sparda has it nailed.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Square Enix
Rated T
Action/RPG genre
Platform: Playstation 2 exclusive

Out of a possible 10:

Graphics: 8/10
Sound: 6/10
Control: 8/10
Difficulty: 6/10
Story: 7/10

Overall (not an average): 7/10


So basically:
Game Title
Publisher / Developer
Rating
Genre
System

Scale of 0 to 10

Graphics: x/x
Sound: x/x
Control: x/x
Difficulty: x/x
Story: x/x

Overall score: x/x


[introduction to the game, series, what to expect, etc]

Then discussion and key points on the traits (graphics, sound, control, difficulty, story, etc)

[closing statement, "Overall" basically]

I mean, it's not like we'd delete your review or not submit it if you don't completely follow this form, but I'd like to recommend we try our best to follow it.



So I take it everyone is on an agreement with this layout then?
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering









Since: 10-03-04
From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta

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Posted on 09-06-05 04:34 PM Link
Thankfully, that's a recommended format, and not required... no offense meant, but I think I'm gonna stick to my own. It's not so much that it's a bad format, but it places undue importance on the numerical ratings, IMO.
Xeoman

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Since: 08-14-04
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Posted on 09-07-05 03:40 PM Link
Well, now I need suggestions on how the current Reviews are looking / going.

I was just thinking today, maybe we should have the Videogames review Category broken up, maybe into "Playstation, Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sega" consoles, or something like that, because if we just keep on getting reviews from systems all over, they'll all be in one category, which could end up getting messy.

Your opinions?
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering









Since: 10-03-04
From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta

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Posted on 09-07-05 10:58 PM Link
Sorting is good. Sorting is very good. Thing is, when we get more reviews, you'd probably be better off sorting by console, and eheh... that'd be fun for you, heh.
Xeoman

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Posted on 09-08-05 07:40 AM Link
Originally posted by Tamarin Calanis
Sorting is good. Sorting is very good. Thing is, when we get more reviews, you'd probably be better off sorting by console, and eheh... that'd be fun for you, heh.


Yeah, others suggested the same thing.

I'll think I'll just gradually keep on making more categories once we start seeing more reviews in.
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering









Since: 10-03-04
From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta

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Posted on 09-08-05 02:39 PM Link
well, I'll probably review all my N64 games...

eventually.
BBQMissile

ChaoticDeath









Since: 08-16-04
From: New York

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Posted on 09-10-05 03:19 AM Link
Here are a few of the old reviews. Please claim the reviews that are yours.

'Front Mission 3 (PS1)',
I'm not sure how many have heard of this game. Made by Squaresoft a few years back, it was the first (and to my knowledge, only) Front Mission game to be translated to English by Square. So, how good is it?

Gameplay: Movement on the map is similar to Vandal Hearts (and from what I hear, Final Fantasy Tactics), in that you have a limited range and can move anywhere in that range. Movement, however, costs AP, as does everything else your wanzer (pronounced vanzer, basically a mech) does, including attacking. Probably not groundbreaking in any way, but very simple. As your pilot destroys more enemy vehicles, he/she will gain more Ace Levels, which give more AP, and weapon EXP to make the attacks stronger with a specific weapon type. Outside of battles, everything is menu-based, which limits freedom, but allows for simplicity. The network, specifically the Web portion, I have mixed feelings about. Tedious when you have to remember passwords and have to type them in every time on certain sites, but other than that, not too bad, plus you can get some nice stuff through it (like the Hoshun Mk112) In addition, the wanzers are customizable; parts and weapons are interchangable, and the name and color can be chosen (with many color options).

Graphics: I'm unsure here... the sprites on the maps (Yes, sprites) are very well done, and the cinema scenes are great, but... the polygon wanzers and pilots, not to mention the environments, have their flaws. Nothing major, but definitely noticable.

Enjoyment: Somewhat iffy, here, as it depends on what you're looking for in the game. If you enjoy using strategy to win battles and having to plan ahead, you'll love the game, especially with the thinking needed to balance out your custom wanzers with their limited weight. If you're looking for an open-ended game, you're out of luck. The story is also very good in my opinion, but a lot of people disagree (as well as agree, for that matter).

Replayability: There are two paths through the game, with different battles on each, but I have only beat one, so I can't say much.

Value: I don't know how much it costs; my best friend gave me the game since his Playstation stopped working. So I can't tell you if it's worth it, but I'm certain it is; one disc game, PlayStation... can't cost too much, can it? ',



'Warhammer 40,000 Dawn of War',
'This game is really awesome. There are so many things you can do, it's hard to list them all. Four races sounds small, but believe me, this game never gets boring. Almost every single unit not only attacks with a gun, but once that unit gets close enough to an enemy, they whip out a sharp object of some kind and begin trying to slit the opponent's throat.

And now, I'll give the good, and the bad.

GOOD-Quite realistic-Worth the Money-Large amount of units-Thousands of Possibilites-Realistic Unit Animations-Amazing Graphics-Innovations such as cover, squad-based combat, and morale-Interesting Story-Grants you the ability to make your armies whatever color you want and to change their symbol and banner.

BAD-Er...not much.-I actually can't really think of anyhting bad.-I guess the unit population could be higher...-Oh to heck with it, just get the game, you won't regret it!',



'Metal Arms: Glitch in the System'

' This is a FPS game I played on Gamecube. This game is pretty good, overall. The single player mode is challenging, though somewhat short. There are MANY ways to get through each level as well. There is a wide assortment of weapons. One other thing I like about it is that, once you beat the single player mode, there are tons of secret things you have to find to get the rest of the multiplayer levels. So now comes the good and the bad!

GOOD-Great graphics...this game is visualy stunning::Excellent gameplay. In fact, the unique weapon switch design is seen rarely in most games.::EXTREME MULTIPLAYER!!! I promise you...if you get three buddies over for some 4-player mayhem in this game, as long as you've got all the multiplayer levels unlocked, you're in for a GOOD time. In fact, the best aspect of this game to me is the multiplayer.

BADWell, this game does have a few things wrong with it. First of all, the multiplayer, though very fun, is somewhat limited in a sense. The levels are much smaller than many people are used to, and often they are made up of duplicate hallways and rooms, so it is hard to tell where you are.

CONCLUSION

Overall, this is a good game. I reccomend getting it, as the prices have dropped a lot now. It's well worth the money, and you'll like it if you like fast-paced FPS's.



'Morrowind: Game of the Year edition (XBox)',

'Morrowind... it has many of the elements of a great RPG... including a massive world, many secret caves and items to find, and many sidequests. The problem comes from having too much of those things.

Story: 4/10
The low score may surprise you, but there isn't that great of a main story to the game. Now, maybe I'd say different if I had played the previous Elder Scrolls games, but as a newbie to the series I can't say much.

Reaslism of the World: 9/10
Odd category, so let me explain. This is how accurate to a real fantasy world that this game seems. And it does seem very accurate. Many books, some are pretty well-written (if you can find 'em, try the Mystery of Talara series) and others tell you about the history of Vvardenfell and the religion of the locals. In addition, everyone has a reason to search as many of them give you skill boosts For example, The Third Door raises your Axe skill a point. Also, there are many references to politics in Vvardenfell and they are pretty well-done. My only gripe is that everyone you can ask about certain topics seems to know the exact same amount about them.

Size of the World: 6/10
Yes, the world is massive. And yes, I gave it a low score. Fact is, it's too big sometimes, and that affects loading times. Also, often you will find yourself not knowing where to go next. There are quick travel options, but there's still a lot of walking that does need to be done.

Graphics: 6/10
The Xbox can do better. No more must be said, really, but I'll continue. Rain falls through structures and rocks. Characters are needlessly polygonal and movement is stiff. I'll compliment them on the buildings - each town has a distinct architectural style, based on the Great House that runs them, which is a nice touch.

Sound: 6/10
The voices are pretty good, and the monster sounds are nicely done. Problem is, each monster has a grand total of one sound. Music is great when it finally becomes audible, but that's a long wait. Weapon sound changes based on how much force is behind it, which is nice but I'd rather hear the music clearly more than I did.

Gameplay: 6/10
Here's a problem. This game feels like it caters to a specific audience, those who like to explore the game world and find things rather than be pointed to them. To those people, this is a great game. For those who like real directions in the game or intense combat, this game isn't such a great idea. Also, this game has more frequent bugs than the original version, which is something I expected Bethesta Softworks to to a bit better on than they did.

Added Content:There's no doubt about it, the Game of the Year edition has more weapons, more quests, more enemies, and more places to explore.


I have the game, and I've loved every non-loading minute of it. But I like exploration, and I don't mind being thrown into a quest with no real instructions. If you are like me, this game will seem to deserve far more than the 7 I'm going to give it. But to the rest, try renting the original. If you like it, you may want to consider getting the GotY version.',
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering









Since: 10-03-04
From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta

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Posted on 09-10-05 02:03 PM Link
Ehrm, I'd like to rewrite my FM3 review sometime before it's posted.

It's really old, and I think I can do quite a bit better now.

Edit: Woah, mind went dead for a moment. I'd have to submit it anyway.


(Last edited by Tamarin Calanis on 09-10-05 05:26 PM)
Xeoman

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Posted on 09-11-05 07:48 PM Link
I'm pretty sure that Morrowind Review was yours too, if not I'd guess HoboConductor's, but I don't think he was around that long ago.
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering









Since: 10-03-04
From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta

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Posted on 09-11-05 10:48 PM Link
Ehrm, yeah, I gotta redo certain parts of that one, too. (story especially. Did a LOT more reading in-game; spent entire days looking for the books in that game...)
Xeoman

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Posted on 09-12-05 01:18 PM Link
I wonder if I should just register an "Anonymous" account and post some of those reviews?
The Accidental Protege

Iggy Koopa
"I'm your accidental protege...
The gift, the blood, the thrownaway..."










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Posted on 09-21-05 07:40 AM Link
Resident Evil 4
Capcom
Rated M
Survival Horror/3rd Person Shooter
Platform: PS2/GC

Out of a possible 10:

Graphics: 10/10
Sound: 9/10
Control: 10/10
Difficulty: 8/10
Story: 9/10

Resident Evil 4 will most likely go down in Videogame History. A redefining game in every sense of the word, RE4 has scared me, shocked me, and got me so riled up, that I can't see straight sometimes.

Graphics: Crisp, clean and fresh, especially for the Gamecube. All of the textures look wonderful, and the character models are clean and vibrant. THe color scheme for the whole reflects the dark nature of it, but I do have a few minor complaints. There are many overused character models, and sometimes, the scenery can get repititous, especially in the Village. Other than that, I love the graphics.

Sound: You hear the sound of heavy, shuddering breaths down a dark ahllway, but you see nothing. The hall is lined with prison cells, and it must be in one of them. The sound is one of the scariest things in the game, and you'll come across this scenario a lot. Also, the moments wherein you can hear the "VRRRRR! VRR VRRR!" oh the chainsaws is enough to make you crap yourself. Especially when you can't see your enemy. The voice acting is top-notch, too. Leon sounded a bit over-acted, but that's not really a major issue hear. It was still done very professionally. Be afraid...

Control: I love the new over-the-shoulder view, as it can set in anxiety when you cannot see behind you. It's a lot beter to aim now wiht the laser scope on all the weapons (even the shotgun, curiously), and turning is a breeze with the quick-turn command (opposite push on Control Stick + B). Everything blends together well, and they didn't skimp on the controls, thankfully.

Difficulty: Considering how long the game was, most of it wasn't all that difficult, as much as it was stressful and the "I don't wanna do this cause I know what'll happen; it'll come alive and kill me!" moments. The enemies aren't overly hard to defeat, but there are moments when you have to concentrate. The bosses were the biggest dissapointment. After killing the Mid-length game Boss in several shots, without him landing a single hit, I was like, "Come on, he's gotta have more than that." Oh well. Can't have everything.

Story: The President's daughter is kidnapped, and taken to Spain. She is being held by a terrorist sect, and that's when Leon S. Kennedy comes on the scene! After taking down a hostile local, after about 6 shots with a handgun, Leon gets curious. These people aren't zombies... Could they be something else? Prepare for a multitude of Ganados, armed to nthe nines with axes, pitchforks and knives as soon as you enter the village, religious zealots wiht Morningstars, crossbows and Bazookas as you enter a creepy castle, and deformed freakish autopsies on the Island! You'll make new friends, and reaquaint with old ones in this tale that ties the series together nicely. You're in for a scare; it's Resident Evil 4!

Final Score: 9.75/10
Xeoman

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