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SyntaxLegend

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Since: 08-14-04
From: Australia

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Posted on 06-23-05 07:25 PM Link | Quote
Xeo said to post it here. So if you close it, your stupid...

Rant 1: Layouts
Why can't people learn stuff instead of asking people for something so simple?

In fact, i'm ranting about how people can't do things themselves, I mean. Layouts, you don't need them, so if you want one, make it yourself. Don't go around saying, "OMFG I AM TEH STUPID ND CANT DU HTML COZ I R DUMB". Take the extra 20 minutes out of your "Ask someone for help" convention and get some actual knowledge on the subject. HTML is not the hardest thing in the world. If you think it is, give Quantum Physics a go....

Another thing about layouts is that they are very, very, very, (I could go on like this for a while but, I don't want to give my keyboard strain) VERY poorly designed, here are my 5 simple rules for layout making.
-Don't put in quotes or songs. It's just more stuff i'm never going to read.
-No scrollbars. I don't want to see a scroll bar because a quote is too long when the post is 5 characters.
-Make it look half decent. Bad tables is just an eyesore, another reason why I wont read your posts.
-Text. No large text, no small text, no color changing text, no size changing text, 12pt Verdana with white text on a black background is perfect.
-No heavy pictures. Do NOT, I repeat do NOT, put excessive amounts of GIFs in or put in a background thats a BMP and takes 40+ years to download.

If your layout breaks one of these rules, do not make a layout, throw it out, delete the code until it fits these rules. If your layout breaks one of these rules, I will simple not read your posts.

Rant 2: Crime Shows
Why are there 50+ crime shows?

Sure these were great the first maybe 20 episodes, but they got really old, really fast. I don’t know what Hollywood is thinking because crime shows aren’t any good. Let me sum up a crime show for you…
-Murder.
-Team gets notified.
-Team wonders for about half an hour.
-Team gets DNA.
-Murderer caught.
Wow, huge amounts of variety there. I think the best thing they made up was identical twins. Same DNA, they pick one and it’s over, and would you look at that they picked the right one. How did they know that? It’s called acting.
Another useless thing about crime shows is that they have so many variations. CSI, CSI: Miami, CSI: NY. Not to mention… Law & Order, L&O: Criminal Intent, L&O: SVU and the latest, L&O: Trial by Jury. When will it ever end!? I have enough stuff to ignore, stop handing me more. We need more shows like Scrubs and Arrested Development, no sitcoms, just comedy without the added laughs.

Rant 3: Indentation
Coding should be clean, not just jumbles of letters.

When one is coding, you might use a certain song to code to, just to get you into a rhythm. But some rhythms can be bad, like no indentation! Sure if you’re the only person reading the code, then go ahead don’t indent the crap out of it. But if you’re working on a project with friends or co-workers, use indentation! I don’t care if you can read it. Make sure other people can read it. None of this one line for a table, tables should be separated and look neat. That way people other than you can read it.
Another reason is how it looks more professional indented. If you want to make a professional project, why not use professional ways of coding. Be gone with the ways of the one line amateurs. Step up to the challenges of indenting, become a man (or woman) in good decent coding structures!



(Last edited by Ponterios on 07-05-05 04:03 AM)
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Since: 08-14-04

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Posted on 06-23-05 08:18 PM Link | Quote
Well, im guess your happy you got that out of your system

Geez, take a chill pill.

I know some layouts suck, and some people annoy you, thats when you dont reply back, and go into edit profile and turn layouts off if it makes you this mad
avatar of law

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Since: 12-29-04
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Posted on 06-23-05 08:30 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ponterios
12pt Verdana with white text on a black background is perfect.


i dunno, i had'da squint to read your text =/ the guy above me is pretty good


(Last edited by avatar of law on 06-23-05 11:31 PM)
SyntaxLegend

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Since: 08-14-04
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Posted on 06-23-05 09:09 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by avatar of law
Originally posted by Ponterios
12pt Verdana with white text on a black background is perfect.


i dunno, i had'da squint to read your text =/ the guy above me is pretty good
Mine is CSS so you cant define pt. its just xx-small, x-small, medium, large, x-large, and xx-large.

Originally posted by Spyware
Well, im guess your happy you got that out of your system

Geez, take a chill pill.

I know some layouts suck, and some people annoy you, thats when you dont reply back, and go into edit profile and turn layouts off if it makes you this mad
Why should i turn off everyones layout because most are sucky, I still want to see mine.
Cairoi
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Since: 08-29-04
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Posted on 06-23-05 09:17 PM Link | Quote
Look, you can't yell at people for their layouts being "sucky". That's a personal prefrence. Work was put into making those layouts (thiers or anothers or for however much) and they like them, or else they woudn't use them. Life doesn't always go your way, and people will continue having their layouts. A forum is an area where conversations are written and ideas are exchanged. Thinking your "idea" of layouts is the only right one does away with the whole concept of the forum.

It's just layouts. It's no big deal.

(P.S. I tried to learn HTML. It's hard and frankly, I have better things to do. Why can't I just ask a friend to help me?)
VGFreak877

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Since: 08-17-04
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Posted on 06-23-05 09:20 PM Link | Quote
Ponterios, maybe I'm just going senile or something here, but I do believe that you can block individual layouts in this version. That way, if one is actually bothering you that bad, you can turn their's off and still be able to see your own.
SyntaxLegend

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Since: 08-14-04
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Posted on 06-23-05 10:51 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Cairoi
Look, you can't yell at people for their layouts being "sucky". That's a personal prefrence. Work was put into making those layouts (thiers or anothers or for however much) and they like them, or else they woudn't use them. Life doesn't always go your way, and people will continue having their layouts. A forum is an area where conversations are written and ideas are exchanged. Thinking your "idea" of layouts is the only right one does away with the whole concept of the forum.

It's just layouts. It's no big deal.

(P.S. I tried to learn HTML. It's hard and frankly, I have better things to do. Why can't I just ask a friend to help me?)
im just viewing my opinion on the subject, i never siad you had to agree..

Originally posted by VGFreak877
Ponterios, maybe I'm just going senile or something here, but I do believe that you can block individual layouts in this version. That way, if one is actually bothering you that bad, you can turn their's off and still be able to see your own.
Why would i have to block 150+ layouts for the 5 that applies to my rules.
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Since: 08-14-04
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Posted on 06-24-05 01:00 AM Link | Quote
Nice rants... <3
SyntaxLegend

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Since: 08-14-04
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Posted on 06-24-05 09:55 PM Link | Quote
Ive added another rant, this one is about Crime shows
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Since: 08-15-04
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Posted on 06-25-05 02:01 AM Link | Quote
Many of us aren't good at computer things, or are just too busy with other stuff (like school work) to learn HTML. I tried learning it, but layouts are just too tricky for me. And I don't think that 150 people even actively post here, let alone have layouts.

As for the crime shows... I like them, but I do think that they could do with better names. Of course, that is the joy of spin-offs.
SyntaxLegend

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Since: 08-14-04
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Posted on 06-25-05 04:31 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Elara
Many of us aren't good at computer things, or are just too busy with other stuff (like school work) to learn HTML. I tried learning it, but layouts are just too tricky for me. And I don't think that 150 people even actively post here, let alone have layouts.
See you dont have to have a layout, its optional. I tihnk people should be able to make thier own, get something like frontpage or dreamweaver. you dont ahve to be good with HTML and you can make one according to my rules.

Elara you could put a black background where your text is and it can follow one of my rules.
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Posted on 06-25-05 07:32 AM Link | Quote
Or none of us have to follow your rules, but the ones posted in the FAQ Durrr.....

But then again, we dont really enforce them, cause we dont really care. Which doesnt make us rant about dumb topics. But you care and it pisses you off and makes you rant.

Hmm....Which side will you take?


(Last edited by Spyware on 06-25-05 10:34 AM)
SyntaxLegend

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Posted on 06-25-05 07:57 AM Link | Quote
Then you might as well delete the FAQ, seeing as none of you enforce the rules in it.
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Since: 08-15-04
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Posted on 06-25-05 12:05 PM Link | Quote
Oh we do enforce them.

And I am one of the people that doesn't know html. I know it needs a box there to make it darker, but I need to do it a certain way since I use Firefox and would still like the black box to be transparent so the whole image can still be seen... and I don't have photoshop, so I can't do it.
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Posted on 06-25-05 01:38 PM Link | Quote
Good point elara. About the firefox problem.

You see syntax, you cant just have a set of rules set in stone and have it ALWAYS be that way, every rule has to be bent sometime.
SyntaxLegend

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Since: 08-14-04
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Posted on 06-25-05 07:36 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Elara
Oh we do enforce them.

And I am one of the people that doesn't know html. I know it needs a box there to make it darker, but I need to do it a certain way since I use Firefox and would still like the black box to be transparent so the whole image can still be seen... and I don't have photoshop, so I can't do it.
You cant use that excuse, Dekkar Nocturnal found a way that it can be done in FireFox. I use firefox as well so I have seen it being used.

And Spyware, If rules are meant to be bent then why exactly are they there. You arnt supposed to break the rules. Lets say ill go and commit murder. i confess, and the police officer goes Oh ok the rules are meant to be broken sometime. It just doesnt happen rules are there to be enforced not to be broken.
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Posted on 06-25-05 07:48 PM Link | Quote
Never mind...

(i deleted my post)


(Last edited by Spyware on 06-26-05 12:00 AM)
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Posted on 06-26-05 01:58 PM Link | Quote
I have nothing to say, but this thread is funny if you don't look at it seriously.

Elara, I recently found a way to define transparancy in FF myself, here.

It would be: -moz-opacity:0.5;
I'm guessing the 3rd opacity tag is for Opera ... Safari?


(Last edited by Xeomega on 06-26-05 04:58 PM)
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Since: 08-15-04
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Posted on 06-26-05 03:24 PM Link | Quote
That is CSS though, will that work with HTML? Like I said, I'm not good with this stuff.
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Since: 10-03-04
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Posted on 06-26-05 05:15 PM Link | Quote
My Reply to Rant 1:

I do agree about scrollbars, but most people with scrollbar layouts here either have such short posts that the scrollbar only cuts off their insanely long signature, have a big enough text area that the scrollbar isn't a problem, or write posts that I just skip over anyway.

And if you absofuckinglutely HAVE to have an entire song in your fucking signature, TURN THE FUCKING FONT SIZE DOWN, DAMN IT! In fact, that should be done with most text signatures longer than one line. For those who don't know, it's font size=# (or is it ="#"?), inside those angle bracket thingies. Default is 3, custom titles are 1, my sig is 2.

Also, if someone offers to make a layout, what's wrong with asking him or her to do so? My layout got its start that way, so long ago... and it hasn't changed much since. Just a new background and a few color changes.

Edits: Just being a grammar nazi.


(Last edited by Jedi Watchman Tamarin on 06-26-05 08:16 PM)
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