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Rauni        Since: 08-14-04 Since last post: 1328 days Last activity: 1328 days |
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| I know half of you probably hated me because I tended to be very much "different" from the rest of you. How different I am?
For several times, I alway consider people's feeling from their post and it alway seem that you or other people are to fully negate my feeling or thought. This kinda disappoint, since you say: "I know what you mean." Okay, what exactly am I feeling right now? If you guess that I am overreacting, sad or jealous, boy... you are wrong... The real answer is that because I was scared. Scared because of everyone lieing to decieved the people from the actual truth. Heck, I even noticed that some people's artwork are messy and everyone just goes: "Oh, it's good alright." That's it? No truth, no opinion? Not being able to sharing your feeling either? Honestly, I alway want to consider the fact that between me and someone else, I alway try to consider BOTH of our feeling. If someone told me to ask how their picture looks, do I need to lies to make the picture worse then it is already? I can't say yes. This is going to hurt MY feeling and make the other person happy. But is that what I really want? I want to create a win-win situation, where everyone is supposed to give out their honest opinion. I alway look over most of these people, and I see people giving up way too fast. Whenever it is just artworks or sim-battling, it just doesn't seem right how people just make stupid comment that describe NO ONE's feeling. What kind of scared type am I? Am I scared that everyone betray me, or am I scared that no one will listen to me? You see, not only you are making other people's feeling goes better, but even you mostly disappoint people who are actually thinking for real, like me. Heck, I notice that Shin-Ra came to the board but just 2 days ago, I did have the feeling of uneaseness. Everyone thinks I am just being kooky or just being weird, when nearly all of you just misunderstood me. This isn't what I believe is right. If you guys think that most people's feeling are to be toyed with, you should give yourself a pat on the back because you are revealing the "not-so-positively" side. Honestly, I think this is stupid. I look at most of the staff and they don't seem to take their job seriously. How do I know? Either they seem to laugh off and pull a short one (without any meaning or just a pointless question to ask like "Close El threado.") like how Elara could just say: "Aww... those poor snow barbarians." All I see is that people are saying thing that doesn't consider the actual meaning of their feeling. How would I reacted if all I got is the good comments and nothing need changing? Honestly, I would take it as the good thing, but the next, I would just keep saying to myself: "They are lying to me. They only want me to feel good thing, but the real truth isn't revealed." This isn't the only one hurting me, but is also hurting everyone too. Heck, if I looked over to the sim-discussion thread, I see a disorganized stuff there, and few rules made by the staff so they "got the upper hand". Okay, maybe they made Leviathan a trainer or a judge... But this is going to make me feel that this board is a place where I can get hurt at. Heck, if they (the staff) did decided to give up because someone told them to sticky it, does it mean that it worth stickied or is it just someone's attemption for just pointing information out? I don't like how people would laugh, stickied it, say "hey, this guy is doing great because he know how to fight well. Not only that, but I bet he could take out the entire board." New flash: They don't. Why? Even in novel sized post, they seem to forget that it come from everyone's feeling. Not how everyone should tell them of what to do. Heck, if this was so easy, I would ask to be a admin. NOW (and I might never get it because seeing how most people never "cared" about me) but otherwise, this is just wrong. Plain wrong. Why? All because of one simple thing. You are not being honest with everyone's feeling, including yourself. I don't like people who demand stuff and restrict everything now. Why? Where are the fun we used have? How come I don't see it anymore? And more importantly, why do I alway feel that most people are failing for themselves? I feel like I am more than a huge jokes (even right now) only because you failed not to understand everyone's feeling. I am tired of seeing how should it alway be your feeling and decided to make things easier by making a great white lie. Look, a white lie may look so helpful but it tears everything up and die faster. But with the help of the dark truth, not only you become stronger, but you could also understand both of you and the other person's feeling. Life isn't fair, I know that. But it is because we say that it should not be fair? Then HOW do we make it fair? That is the question I believed we should started asking for each other. This post was to meant to point out your feeling and try to understand everyone else, instead of just saying that offering sympathy or lack of information (such as saying: "It's cool." ). I don't really cared about how many users at this board get mad at me, but hey... I am just sick of seeing white lies that tear me down. I rather hear people's opinion and advice, as long as they are not aggressive or too ruckless thinking. For once, I think we should move ahead of this. This might not help us, but it will certainly get us out of pointless or white lies that could damages so much to this board... Just respect everyone's feeling... You may not understand their feeling just by saying: "I know what you mean. I have that feeling too." because our feeling are too different from each other. The only way to understand someone is just listen their thought and feeling, and consider from THEIR points of view. Just don't look at one person's feeling but many people after that too. Heck, if you think Leviathan is good and someone else think he is good, you don't jump to the conclusion believing that everyone think Leviathan is good for something. Many people will feel betrayed and etc. knowing that not everyone is to be trusted... I hoped this may prove useful soon or later, because I don't want this board to be worse then the time, I felt that it is falling apart... (Last edited by Shanan on 08-06-05 03:45 AM) |
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avatar of law Beezo  Since: 12-29-04 From: paris, canada Since last post: 5550 days Last activity: 5550 days |
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| wow, another guy who has felt he is being unloved, and yet again, i have no clue who this guy is... =/
i wonder what it is about this place that attracts ppl to do these kinda posts =/ and my apologies if my comment offended anyone, but man, a lotta ppl have been doing this  |
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Rauni Since: 08-14-04 Since last post: 1328 days Last activity: 1328 days |
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| No... I think you misread it... *Sigh*
It is so hard to explain, because what you did was show the example of what I am trying to say... Did you try to understand my feeling or did you just skim through my post, regardless of my feeling and thought into it? All I want is that people should tell the honest truth, instead of just showing their pointless saying like: "OMG, it is so cool." when it seem stupid. I also want people to be respected in a truthful way, so that both people feeling are being understood and reasonable as well... If you don't get it... You think I am feeling unloved (not true) and I was actually scared. Since you didn't understand my feeling, I try understanding your but you made it harder because you didn't understood my views and feeling first. This is why you just showed a good example... You choose to ignore my feeling. And not only that, but also showed that you don't cared. |
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avatar of law Beezo Since: 12-29-04 From: paris, canada Since last post: 5550 days Last activity: 5550 days |
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| i think what's really going on is not that ppl arent trying to understand one another or are trying to cover things with whitelies, but instead, we're just lazy. i think you're over thinking things. like you believe everyone here is intelligent, and actually take the time to think out everything, and post about everything that comes to their minds. but that's not what's going on. we get distracted easily, and post stupid things for the sake of making a post. i mean, yes this is a board, and you're supposed to save posts and such, but i find that there are those who tend to write out whatever is on their mind at the one moment and move on. thinking takes far too much time. and the whitelies are what keeps ppl from killing each other. i mean, if you say something that can remotely be interperted as an insult, you've got yourself a war coming. and yeah, ppl do skim, but sometimes they just forget the tiniest details and focuse on something that caught their eyes.
and i was right, you're in the general arts and sim battles, no wonder i dont know you =P i dont go there -.-' EDIT: oh, now i know who you are. i was looking over at the death penalty thread in the debate, and it seems that you have changed your name... i was wondering why there were lots of weird things in your post... you're the guy who kept talking about why it was cruel and unusual, yet never provided any meaning to it, except by repeating it over and over -.-' you have lost my respect now that i know who you are, how's that for being honest? (Last edited by avatar of law on 08-06-05 07:26 AM) |
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Rauni Since: 08-14-04 Since last post: 1328 days Last activity: 1328 days |
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| Probably only because I lost your respect because you choose it to be. I alway try understanding people but saying whites lies also lead to killing each other too. After they find out.
Avatar, if I disrespect you so much, why do I think that you alway going to say "Nope, my feeling is much more improtant than you. I know that because you are a fucking jerk who doesn't realize it." to me? Why do I have the feeling that you alway go "Well, FUCK you!" regardless of people's thought and opinion? And why do I think people skim for a reason, not understanding the full potential of someone post's? If you will never have any time, then you shouldn't bother replying to them since you are making yourself think you are right. If you think everyone on Earth doesn't have and will never have any feeling, you can might as well shut up and don't even bother walking or viewing everyone as a interior people. Meaning? Guess what, here is my meaning: "I believe that everyone should have their life to have fun, to cherish for themselves, to be understood, etc. for as long as they can live." When I saw your post about death penalty, I felt your meaning was to: "Kill anyone who wronged and murdered people. They are people who need death." If you honestly think I should not allow to give out my feeling and think that all of my post was pointless, fine. But this just show your cruel intention of not only hurting people's feeling, but also revealed that your thought is just being so ignorant by putting your thought first before anyone else. And hey, that dark truth you told me: I did care. We BOTH know that we are bound to disrespect each other, but I was trying to set out a point and trying to help. But all I got was someone who believed that they are improtant first and other people are not to be understood. Fine, just show everyone of your intention and please give me a favor. Don't ever post in this thread unless you understood what I am tired of. |
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avatar of law Beezo Since: 12-29-04 From: paris, canada Since last post: 5550 days Last activity: 5550 days |
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| that's where you're wrong. everything you just said about me, and about what i think about you is totally wrong. i doubt you even really read my post either. and no, i'm not saying that you shouldnt be allowed to express your opinions, but what i'm saying is that most ppl here dont feel like expressing their true emotions because most ppl DONT GIVE! as i've already said, we're lazy. no one's going to analyze everything and put all their thoughts onto a post. most people will just read, move on, and comment on something that caught their eye. from most of the replies have i read here, i doubt everyone here reads every single post written at a thread. i'm going to go out on a limb and say that most people will only read the first couple of posts, get bored, move down, read a couple of those, and reply.
if people dont express their true emotions to the people that they know and love irl, what makes you think they're going to spend the extra time online to express it to some total stranger? the death penalty thread and everything i wrote and felt about you is not based upon anything, but on how you presented yourself. and how you presented yourself wasnt anything that would've impressed me. in fact, all you kept on doing was giving stupid examples that had no merit on anything because none of those fall under the penatly of death. after you gave those examples, all you did was go on and on about the same thing, like, it's cruel and unusual, yet NEVER provided any real reasoning of why it was cruel or unusual. you kept on saying it over and over, hoping that it would actually win me over. it didnt. you didnt lose my respect because of what you thought, but because how you presented it. it was lame. the examples had no bearing on real life situations because it never involved any of the 25 things i posted on how someone could get a death penalty. you kept saying it's cruel and unusual, but never said why, except by repeating it. and plus, I AM TIRED of when people say, "i know what you mean." then the other person says "YOU DONT KNOW HOW I FEEL." i hate that second person! why? how do you know that i dont know how you feel?! just because you're feeling it right now doesnt mean anyone else other than you had too felt it. and right now, you sir are the one who is being the ass, NOT ME. you're the one who is putting crap down my mouth, saying things about me and how i feel, when i have never felt those emotions about you, or anyone here. i have never once said or made any gestures as to how i am more superior than you, or anyone. i have yet to ever think in my mind about saying "well, fuck you!" and no YOU dont disrespect me, you disappoint me! you go on and on about how we should be truthful, and respect others feelings and all that, but yet, you were the one who kept saying dumb crap about me, and faking how i feel. i never feel that i'm more importan than anyone else here. and i dont think you're a jerk who doesnt realize it, i just think you should learn how to better express yourself. your thoughts are all over the place, and the grammer isnt helping either. saying i'm the jerk and doing fake quotes for me isnt helping your case sir. doing that only proves what you're trying to prove upon what you yourself hate. and yeah, i posted first to your thread, why? because i was the only one online at the time. i wasnt stalking this forum to specifically wait for you and write shit about you. i just happened to be here. and you just happened to write another one of these threads that a lot of people have been doing lately, so i commented about it. i even said no offense, yet, you took offense to it. i'm not trying to flame you or anything you're trying to say or express. my second post was trying to explain things to you about why people do the things they do, yet you flamed back at me. my intentions were to never flame or make you feel stupid in any manner. |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical  Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3747 days Last activity: 3653 days |
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These long lengthy posts are getting repetitive.
This is what I got from your first post Shanan: You are emo. You are jealous. You are mad. You think its the Staff's fault. You think no one is having fun. First of all, no one hates you. Second, I think the majority of the board is fine with how things are right now. I understand that you feel that Leviathan is getting some sort of special treatment, but he has proven himself to be a more than qualified simbattler. You didn't throw a fit when Leon was chosen as a trainer, so why now? Leviathan's Speed of Light thread (which you're blatantly referring to) was stickied because it should be looked at before people being foolishly zipping around their battles at impossible speeds. I've noticed this trend and I would have stickied the thread if someone didn't do it before me. I do not thing their is an empathy complex on the board. I think everyone sympathizes and empathizes like any other person would. Just because we're all not Oprah, doesn't mean we don't care. I talk with you frequently on AIM and I have even helped you with some things. I'm sure you understand what i'm saying is truely sincere. |
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Leviathan Magician  Since: 07-20-05 From: The 217th layer of hell. Quite temperate actually. Since last post: 5321 days Last activity: 5233 days |
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| Jesus christ kid...
Allow me to welcome to you life. People lie. They kiss ass. They jump right on the bandwagon without a second thought. I'm not talking about the board..i'm speaking in general. But hell..what do you expect from this board? Unless someone here is a personal friend (like Shu), you are just text on a monitor. We may find the text interesting..funny..annoying..likeable..but it is still text. Few people are going to stop and consider your emotional reaction to a few words. As for what was said of me..i made a suggestion that my thread be stickied. I demanded nothing. I asked to be a trainer because i could offer a different kind of HELP to the team. I don't get a damned thing out of it. Someone asks for help simming/a ruling in a fight...i can offer it. I could see you being pissed if i was suddenly a SMOD..but i'm not. Why do people thing i'm a good fighter? Because i came on this board, cocky as all hell..and i'm backing it up. Honestly..what's the point of being upset over it? They think i'm good..fine. They think i suck..fine. Quite frankly, i'm not so emotionally fragile that i care about general opinions on a message board. As for your other comments..are you kidding? I have posted some of the worst things imaginable in Death Penalty threads in my time, suggesting everything from public excecution to crucifixion. Not once did i stop to consider the feelings of the other people who posted their opinions. Why? Because the POINT is to post opinions. What, you think that the rest of us should pick our words carefully because something may offend YOU? We should stem OUR opinions so that we don't conflict with yours and upset you? "Don't put your own feelings before mine..put mine before yours!" That is what i got from your posts. And quite frankly, i can't believe it. You're 13 years old? Maybe i can. You see..the world doesn't work like that. The only time someone "may" stop and reconsider something based on your feelings is if it is directed only at you. Otherwise..you have no choice but to deal with it. Just like the rest of us. (I'm not using the fact that you're 13 as an insult. It simply explains quite a bit. You're young. You have very little experience with life. Stop complaining and learn how to deal with things. If you feel upset by a frigging post..so what? Someone didn't consider your feelings..so what? Is the world going to end? No. And if you keep focusing on how much this or that hurts your feelings, you're going to start noticing that people really DON'T care. More hurt feelings..more not caring..it will drive you up a wall. Do YOU care? That has to be good enough.) Finally...you talk about people not taking feelings into account..and yet you're pissed off because some of them DO?! "Oh..that drawing is pretty good" Why would someone say that about a scribble. Maybe because they are one of the few people who DO stop to consider someones feelings before posting? "Hey..if i say it looks okay, maybe they'll keep drawing and get better. If i say it's a piece of shit, they may give up". I'm not going to bother going into much depth about the "me" bandwagon. I've impressed several key RP figures on this board. If others want to jump on in and say i'm great because of it..*shrug*..let them. If they want to do the opposite..well, i've already covered it. Either they stop to form an opinion..or they are sheep. People are people. Many of them are also sheep. Another fact of life. (Not directed to anyone in particular..since i'm not even sure who he was referring to) |
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Rauni Since: 08-14-04 Since last post: 1328 days Last activity: 1328 days |
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| For the record, I am not 13. I'm 17 because I tend to fool around like how TP does.
Okay, Leviathan... Let me tell you something. You honestly need to understand the word "meaning" because that is the one thing you will forget. Why's that, because everything have is its meaning. Regardless of texts. If you are just about to say that I am joke for saying thing, then you can say it. Honestly, because everytime I felt that bad things are about to happened, they do and no one cared on how they could have avoid it. And that's the problem. The facts that no one cared of what is coming can end up either being screwed or making thing worse. And no, Leviathan... I do care about those people who cared. But when it come to someone like you who think know everything, this is the point where I knew trouble is nearby. Oh yeah, I can predict trouble. And since I knew the trouble came, I am currently being engaged by two people who believed that I am totally utterly pointless and doesn't get his voice heard? Go face life. I am tired of how everyone say: "It was just a coincidence." Okay, so we don't care. Maybe it is better off if we walk over to someone's life, mess it up, probably threaten them so that they can lived in misery and pain and eventually, we "kill" them. Congratulation, not only you showed that no one cared in some point, but actually made yourself look a murderer. Not only that, but you have a knack for screwing people's life. Trying doing this on me won't work, Leviathan. I KNEW that trouble was nearby and I KNEW that some would protect, saying that it is pointless to understand feeling. But when it is come to feeling, Leviathan, you might be facing a suicide person, and since you got "I don't care" behavior, say good bye to everyone. Seeing how nobody care, fine. You are bound to care why that is it important to start understanding people. Heck, books are texts. And they still have feeling, Leviathan. How come you don't realize that? Everything have feeling, that why I believed that we should make a better uses of that by honestly thinking, not by white lies where one person feeling is hidden. Okay, the scribble part. Here what I would either think it is, children drawing. And that's different. Unless it is adult drawing or teenager drawing, you can pretty much speak honest with them seeing how everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Not a hidden message that look like "It look bad." Beside, spoiling is also another problem with people speaking white lies too. And I certainly don't like being spoiled. Not to mention that they keep believing that all of their bad arts is super-awesomes. Seeing how this thread is opened to other people's opinion of why should I as least keep my mouth shut and think that they are alway right, I would like to ask any moderator or admination to closed this thread, seeing how that some people may think they are still right. (And creating a rather unnessacry battles too.) |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3747 days Last activity: 3653 days |
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| Shanan asked me to close this. His wish is my command.
*Crosses arms and nods.* |
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