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Rogue
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Since: 08-17-04

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Posted on 11-09-05 02:01 AM Link
I didn't think this was something for Tricks and Jokes or Crazy, or even Debate.

This is something that I truly wish to share and express. Do read it.

10 Reasons Why Gay Marriage is Wrong


01) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

02) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

03) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

04) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

05) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

06) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

08) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.
Evo

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Since: 08-16-04
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Posted on 11-09-05 02:33 AM Link
Oh my God, Rogue... when I opened this thread and saw the headline of what you posted, I thought you were seriously opposing it. O.O

But, on topic. I never thought of all those arguments before. I have heard people say "If gay marriage is legal, then people will wish to marry their dogs next!"

Those are a lot of valid points that I would not have ever thought of. Thank you. Though I do think this belongs in crazy, I think it gets the attention it deserves here. Nice decision.
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Beezo








Since: 12-29-04
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Posted on 11-09-05 02:34 AM Link
i'm glad i'm not the only one here who has had those thoughts
Bitmap

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Since: 09-05-04
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Posted on 11-09-05 10:00 AM Link
Originally posted by Rogue

07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

hr>


I know 2 people who are strait and have gay parents. Thing is that most gay families play a masculine and feminine role in a parental household. And both of my friends are strait as an arrow and have boyfriends (Their both women of course).

I just had to bring that up. Im not saying thats not true, im just saying not ALL kids are like that...
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Posted on 11-09-05 12:15 PM Link
Originally posted by Sajin Gorotto
Originally posted by Rogue

07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

hr>


I know 2 people who are strait and have gay parents. Thing is that most gay families play a masculine and feminine role in a parental household. And both of my friends are strait as an arrow and have boyfriends (Their both women of course).

I just had to bring that up. Im not saying thats not true, im just saying not ALL kids are like that...


Eh, where I'm prolly wrong, I thought Rogue's entire post was saying that all of this was wrong. O-o
Lord Vulkas Mormonus

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Since: 10-29-04
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Posted on 11-09-05 12:29 PM Link
I know a few people might hate me for this, but oh well.

I am actually against gay marriage. Now, don't feel offened, because while I disagree with people being gay, I don't actually hate those people.

So, yeah. I only disagree with it because it is unnatural, and religious beliefs.
Jin

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Since: 01-12-05
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Posted on 11-09-05 01:32 PM Link
When did love start being immoral.. and lying, killing and invading became moral?

*Jin shakes his head and goes back to his pit of sorrow.
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Since: 09-05-04
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Posted on 11-09-05 01:52 PM Link
Originally posted by Shaddow Flight
Originally posted by Sajin Gorotto
Originally posted by Rogue

07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

hr>


I know 2 people who are strait and have gay parents. Thing is that most gay families play a masculine and feminine role in a parental household. And both of my friends are strait as an arrow and have boyfriends (Their both women of course).

I just had to bring that up. Im not saying thats not true, im just saying not ALL kids are like that...


Eh, where I'm prolly wrong, I thought Rogue's entire post was saying that all of this was wrong. O-o


Exactly why I brung that up.....
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Posted on 11-09-05 02:31 PM Link
Originally posted by Vulkar
So, yeah. I only disagree with it because it is unnatural


So wanting to have sex with the same sex is a synthetic urge that wasn't based upon the nature of human beings. Also, are you calling a vast majority of a civilization unnatural (The Romans were open with their bi-ness). If it wasn't for the romans, it would have taken a lot longer for all of Western Europe to stray away from Barbaric lives and become civilized.

Vulkar, I hope you get your ass kicked hardcore style by a gay man.
Bitmap

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Since: 09-05-04
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Posted on 11-09-05 02:32 PM Link
Originally posted by HoboConductor
Originally posted by Vulkar
So, yeah. I only disagree with it because it is unnatural

Vulkar, I hope you get your ass kicked hardcore style by a gay man.


Now im not saying this to discriminate, but anyone who can take anal sex, and smile about it. Are the same people not to be fucked with....

Gay People are dangerous....
Shuyin

Baron of Radical








Since: 08-19-04

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Posted on 11-09-05 02:49 PM Link
This is starting to get a bit heated so i'm moving it to debate.

And Sajin: Lesbians don't necessarily need anal to pleasure themselves.
Makura









Since: 01-22-05
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Posted on 11-09-05 06:11 PM Link
Amen. We were actually discussing something very similar in GSA today. There are a lot of great points in that. My favorite is the one about religion.
geeogree

Ninji








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Posted on 11-09-05 06:18 PM Link
okay, I don't know exactly who thinks that someone could marry an animal... but those people are stupid


however, now that there is gay marriage (legalized in a few countries).... what's stopping people from marrying 2 or 3 people? or 10? What if I love them all, it's my right to be happy isn't it?
Astrophel
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Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering









Since: 10-03-04
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Posted on 11-09-05 06:26 PM Link
Polygamy is not related to gay marriage, geeogree, so stick to the fucking topic.
geeogree

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Posted on 11-09-05 06:27 PM Link
eat a dick Tamarin.... it is related, because I made it related
Astrophel
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Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering









Since: 10-03-04
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Posted on 11-09-05 06:39 PM Link
Wrong answer, geeo. Your posts are offtopic and you just now flamed a staff member.

Keep it up. The grey paint is waiting.
Lord Vulkas Mormonus

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Since: 10-29-04
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Posted on 11-09-05 07:16 PM Link
Tamarin, I'd have to say it is related. The arguement is that marriage is about love. Those people say it is about absolutely nothing else. So, if you love more than one person, then by your theory, you should legally do it. Of course, that's Geeogree's arguement. I realize that you all still believe that marriage should still be only one on one.

But then, if marriage is treated so casually that it isn't done by people only intending to have children, then it could easily lead to polygamy.
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering









Since: 10-03-04
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Posted on 11-09-05 07:20 PM Link
While I understand your logic, this topic is specifically about gay marriage.

Plus which, there's the other legal issues that are tied to marriage that would be a problem if polygamy was legal. Had marriage not involved legal matters such as taxes (IIRC, that's one of 'em), perhaps the two would be related. However, it takes a fool to ignore that little issue.

And so I depart again. HOPEFULLY for the last time. *sharp glare*


(Last edited by Tamarin Calanis on 11-09-05 10:21 PM)
Evo

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Since: 08-16-04
From: Oregon

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Posted on 11-09-05 08:16 PM Link
Ok. If we want to talk about Polygomy, we'll make a thread, ok? It's come up in more than one thread, so let's keep this to gay marrage. Not gays getting married to 4 other gay people, ok?

Vulkar, please understand that I am not bashing you or trying to diss your religion or anything, but here just try and understand what I'm trying to say without getting offended?

This country has a thing called "freedom of religion." Where people can chose to have any religion, or none. If a main part of this country is based on this belief, I strongly agree that we should not force religion on people. Saying that gay marriage is wrong because of the bible and whatever else is forcing that religion and that belief onto those of us that do not believe in the Bible or God. It's just not right.

If you're against same-sex marriages, don't get married to someone of tha same gender, but don't try to take other people's rights away.

(I know you siad you thought it was wrong, not that there should be a law against it, but there is a law here in Oregon that prevents gays from getting married.)
Lord Vulkas Mormonus

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Since: 10-29-04
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Posted on 11-09-05 08:42 PM Link
Yes, Evo, I never said there should be a law against it. I take no offense, as I also have a strong belief in freedom of religion.

I believe it is wrong, and people shouldn't do it. However, like I am with many other immoral things, I realize it would be a huge political problem if we took away the right to marry anyone you want. It would be against the constitution, because of the way it came to be. It would also ruin the whole point of morality. How are you moral, if you are forced to, and you must or else the law will come down on you?

So yeah, I do disagree with it anyway, and I think that either way, we are up for a huge political mess that may take away too many rights, or give back many political rights.
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