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Evo

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Since: 08-16-04
From: Oregon

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Posted on 11-10-05 05:31 PM Link | Quote
I am greatful for what little I am recieving. I think welfare is a good idea, but it's not used in the way it should be for most people that are on welfare.

You know what I'm talking baout. WIC (Women Infants and Children), foodstamps, cash for families, HUD, etc.

I don't know how it's set up in other states, but let's start with foodstamps and go from there. In Oregon, we used a card, much similar to an ATM card. You can use your foodstamps to buy... well.. Food! But when you use it, you have to swipe it through a credit terminal. Next, it gives you the option to use it for "food" or "cash."

What this enables people to do is use their foodstamps, their money they're recieving from the government (and us taxpayers), to buy other things like clothes, DVDs, and even games. ANOTHER fault with this card is that you can chose to recieve cash back.

So basically, they've turned this whole thing into one giant clusterfuck. Instead of giving food to needy families, they have opened a can of worms, so to speak. Those people can get cash back and go buy marijuana if they wanted to.

I think that's really f**ked up.

Another thing they told me at the welfare office. Since I'm pregnant, when my baby's born, I don't have to work until he is 6 years old and they will provide for us. ~I'm~ going to work, but I think that's one of the main reason people keep having kids. More people in your household=more foodstamps/money/etc. As long as you have a kid under 6, you don't have to work.

How do you all feel about this? I take what I can get ($10 a month, yay?) and use it for things like... FOOD! But so many people are using it irresponsibly (I'm a cashier for Walmart, I see people use it all the time), it makes me sick.

Discuss?
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Since: 10-29-04
From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way

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Posted on 11-14-05 12:30 PM Link | Quote
I might as well get this started...

The food stamps are neccesary. Completely neccesary. People would be starving to death all over America if they didn't exist. Even I could have the possibility of being dead, as my dad went through unemployment for a long time, and was unable to have a good job.

However, people abuse it. There should only be three things people should be able to get from it. Food, shelter, and water. With all of those, they should require to have the card with them, so that they don't spend their money on other things.

So, a good system, though it lacks the final polish that it needs.
Evo

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Since: 08-16-04
From: Oregon

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Posted on 11-14-05 04:03 PM Link | Quote
*nods* agreed. It just bothers me that the "food" part of it will cover stuff like candy, chips, and soda, and it won't even cover the basic needs like toilet paper and tooth brushes.

But then again, when you have that "cash" option, you can buy anything you want. It just drives me insane.
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Since: 01-10-05

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Posted on 11-14-05 04:07 PM Link | Quote
Every system has its ups and downs but I can see where the cash thing is a good part of the system. School is expensive, I'm not even talking about college. Binders, pencils, pens, paper costs a bit more each year. And in modern day america is basically a neccessity to own a computer. Typing up reports, doing stuff online for research projects, etc.

People are going to abuse it, but there is no reason to take it away for the people that really do need it. Also you can't expect people to use the Honor System all the time, do you?
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