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Rogue
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Posted on 09-08-06 08:41 PM Link | Quote
The Article

Originally posted by TMZ.com
Universal's "Mummy" Dearest: The Un-sequel

EXCLUSIVE: When is a sequel not a sequel?

The star is back. A hot team of sequel scribes have turned in their script. The same producers are producing.

But for the love of Ra, please: Don't call it a sequel.

At least, that's the thinking at Universal Pictures, where the third installation of "The Mummy" is being readied to begin shooting early next year. TMZ has learned that Brendan Fraser has already agreed to return, but in a twist that reveals how high stakes the franchise movie business has become, the studio has actually promised potential directors that it won't be called "The Mummy 3."

Why?

Well, for starters, Sumner Redstone may have drubbed "Mission: Impossible 3" for coming up $150 million short in box office thanks to Tom Cruise's off-screen effectuation of "creative suicide," but the truth is, any movie with a number in its title begins its life with the press and the public betting against it creatively.

"Rocky 6"? Pah-thet-ic. "Rocky Balboa"? Intriguing.

"Superman 5"? A tired retread. "Superman Returns"? Count me in!

And if a studio waits too long between tentpole releases, as some speculate Paramount might have done with "Mission: Impossible 3 " and you can wind up on the wrong side of a demographic shift: Universal's original "Mummy" debuted in 1999, nearly eight years ago. The high school freshman who was popping zits on the night of its premiere is now looking for his first job out of college.

None of this has been lost on the folks at Universal, who hired "Smallville" creators Alfred Gough and Miles Millar to reimagine the Stephen Sommers epic for a new generation that's never even heard of "The Mummy."

Currently, Universal has made an offer to Joe Johnston ("Hidalgo, "October Sky") a protege of George Lucas and Stephen Spielberg, to direct. He's not likely to do it, insiders familiar with the talks say, because "Joe's not a sequel guy."

Huh? Then why did Johnston direct "Jurassic Park III" and, why Joe he attached to "Jurassic Park IV"?

"Um, Steven Spielberg?" comes the staccato reply.

You see, sequels, unless they're produced by Steven Spielberg, are for suckers.

"The Mummy 3"? It's not a sequel, people. It's not even a trilogy. It's a reimagining.

Look for it in theaters soon.


I'd been looking forward to this since Scorpion King was so ridiculously unsettling for me. I was obsessed with the first one and the second one left much to be desired. Here's hoping this third one will be much better.
FX

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Posted on 09-08-06 11:02 PM Link | Quote
Well, I'll see it. The Mummy was awesome, and the Mummy 2 was entertaining. So what are they going to call this one if it isn't the Mummy 3? And how are they going to bring back Imothep again?
Dirk Ralthar

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Posted on 09-09-06 02:07 AM Link | Quote
They are going to have them dig him up out of the remains from the ruined city and bring him back to life with the book of the dead, duh. Well seriously, I have no idea, but it could be interesting... i will need to watch for it.
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Posted on 09-10-06 02:54 AM Link | Quote
Who knows what's going to be in the sequel, although I think whoever wrote that article was really on to something....

I'll probably go see it, even though I'm not a Brendan Fraser fan in the least bit.
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Posted on 09-18-06 08:02 AM Link | Quote
What's interesting, is that only a little bit before I looked at this article, I had watched the Mummy Returns and wondered if there was going to be a sequel. Guess so.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to it. I like the Mummy a lot, and like The Mummy Returns more. While I disliked the Scorpion King, hopefully the Mummy 3 will be good.
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Posted on 09-19-06 06:32 AM Link | Quote
I was wondering if they were going to bring out another Mummy. The first one was great, I found the second one a disappointment. I honestly don't like sequels, because after seeing the first, knowing the characters, knowing what is expected it's hard to continue it on without the characters and scenes/themes getting boring and old.

Disney sequels are evil!!!

I'm glad though they have Brendan Fraser in 3, I like him as an actor
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Since: 08-15-04
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Posted on 09-20-06 03:34 PM Link | Quote
Tiny comment on Disney sequels is the truest thing I have ever read. Especially on the animated movies.

Anywho, why are they even bothering to make a third Mummy? I really think that the ship has sailed on that one after the Scorpion King. Of course, it would be interesting to see how they bring Imhotep back this time.
Rogue
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Posted on 02-22-08 02:04 PM Link | Quote
BUMPED!

Just trying to keep these things together.

Found a blog that's keeping track of the reported progress of the third Mummy movie:
http://mummy-3-trailer.blogspot.com/

Turns out the story's taking place in China this time around. Not bad, it could work HOWEVER the actors playing Evelyn and Alex are different. No Rachel Weisz.

The title they've chosen, sans numbers, is The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor and will feature Jet Li and Michelle Yeoh.
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Posted on 02-29-08 04:51 AM Link | Quote
So... Chinese mummy now? Odd.
Lord Vulkas Mormonus

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Posted on 03-02-08 10:33 AM Link | Quote
It sounds like a different style of movie, but with Jet Li as a martial arts mummy? Who would actually say no?

It sounds like it could be good, but I do think that it's too bad theat Rachel Weisz left the movie.
FX

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Posted on 03-02-08 02:14 PM Link | Quote
Really, as long as we have Brendan Frasier, we're fine, cause he made those movies.
Nephitaem

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Posted on 03-13-08 10:31 PM Link | Quote
why do people keep making unneeded sequals? the story ended with the mummy returns why do we need another story about breden fraser killing undead?

i think they're just out to make money, so this will probably for the same way as all the other lame sequals that were made jsut for money.
FX

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Posted on 03-13-08 10:46 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Nephitaem
i think they're just out to make money,

No, they're doing it because they have a good time making it _?
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Posted on 05-29-08 03:43 AM Link | Quote
Apparently they dropped the number.



When I heard of this movie, it made me go "ugh". That is until I saw Jet Li and Michelle Yeoh. First I get a movie with Jet Li and Jackie Chan fighing. Now I get one where he fights Michelle Yeoh. Win! (This movie could quite possibly suck, but that's irrelevant.)
Rogue
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Posted on 06-01-08 05:46 PM Link | Quote
It's funny how they figured the Terracotta warriors of Xi'an into it since a few of them are on display at the Bowers in Santa Ana.

Anyway, barring that, this actually looks like it'll be fun to watch.

I mean, I'd prefer they brought back Rachel, but hey whatever. It's an action movie sequel. It's just meant to be fun to look at.
NUCKLEARKNIGHT

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Posted on 06-01-08 06:16 PM Link | Quote
Yeah I think I might feel a little off watching it without Rachel in it but whatever. Looks like it's worth watching. Corny lines by Brendan Frasier, special effects galore, and of course mummies.

I remember watching the first one when I was younger and it scared me to death. Now these movies are just like adventure movies that are just fun to watch.
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Posted on 06-01-08 09:38 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by NUCKLEARKNIGHT
I remember watching the first one when I was younger and it scared me to death.


I was afraid to watch it because I thought it would be scary.
...
I was also afraid of ET...

I don't see why everyone is assuming it's going to be bad just because it's a sequel, although there are still chances of suckage people don't need to go "oh, it's a sequel, it'll suck"

Also, was there a need to state that it was from the producers of the Mummy and the Mummy Returns in the trailer?
NUCKLEARKNIGHT

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Posted on 06-02-08 05:44 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by FX
I don't see why everyone is assuming it's going to be bad just because it's a sequel, although there are still chances of suckage people don't need to go "oh, it's a sequel, it'll suck"


Seems like people do that a lot... I know I've though movies weren't going to be good just because they were sequels. Although there are some movies that I wanted to have sequels. Like the Saw movies. Great sequels that I always though would be better than the previous one. And they were.
Rogue
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Posted on 06-02-08 01:39 PM Link | Quote
I didn't say because it's a sequel it's automatically going to suck, BUT to touch on a certain point, there is a pattern of bad sequels that come out.

The Matrix, for example. Now, while I'm a big fan of the trilogy, I do agree that the sequels weren't exactly up to scratch with the original and in the long-run may not have needed to be made.

Other examples I can think of off the top of my head:

The Lost World and JP3.

Jaws 2.

Battle for Planet of the Apes.

Speed 2.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3.

Free Willy 2 & 3, Pirates of the Caribbean 2: Dead Man's Chest, 2 Fast 2 Furious, Elektra, and all the Bring It On sequels.

Every other Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th, Halloween, Scream, I Know What You Did Last Summer, Urban Legends, Blair Witch Project, Scary Movie, Rocky, and most of the Disney movie sequels (including Honey, I Shrunk the Kids).

Along with the occasional Star Trek movie, i.e. The Final Frontier.

And then when you shift actors around due to their refusing to come back and/or they're dead:
- Viva Rock Vegas
- Grease 2
- The Next Karate Kid
- Staying Alive
- Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights
- Blues Brothers 2000
- Caddyshack 2

Then you get trilogies where the second movie wasn't bad, in fact it even surpassed its original--but then there's that painful third or fourth movie:
- Terminator
- The Godfather
- X-Men
- Spider-Man
- Batman (that steady decline from the first movie directed by Tim Burton down toward Batman and Robin)
- American Pie (2 was pretty decent, Wedding was crap)
- And recently added to the list Indiana Jones (While I enjoyed Kingdom, it definitely brings down the standard of those movies).

Hell, The Mummy Returns and the spin-off The Scorpion King, weren't exactly batting it out of the park either, but they were still enjoyable to watch.


And yes, there are some great sequels out there, which can be proven by the fact that we have power-trilogies like Star Wars and Lord of the Rings, and hell, even Evil Dead.


But seriously, when it comes to sequels there's so much shit out there you can't help but tread cautiously when it comes to seeing the second, third, or fourth installment these days.

I mean, if you're paying $10 to see a movie these days, you want it to be worth your while, right?


I'm not knocking on this upcoming third Mummy movie at all when I say as an "action movie sequel" it's designed to be "fun to look at." Action movies aren't exactly well-noted for dialogue and story content.

And whether or not you gentlemen were regarding my comment, I'm just clarifying.


Anyway, I'll probably see this in the theater since I saw all of the Mummy movies in their first week. Yep.
NUCKLEARKNIGHT

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Posted on 06-04-08 06:07 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rogue
I didn't say because it's a sequel it's automatically going to suck, BUT to touch on a certain point, there is a pattern of bad sequels that come out.

The Matrix, for example. Now, while I'm a big fan of the trilogy, I do agree that the sequels weren't exactly up to scratch with the original and in the long-run may not have needed to be made.

Other examples I can think of off the top of my head:

The Lost World and JP3.

Jaws 2.

Battle for Planet of the Apes.

Speed 2.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3.

Free Willy 2 & 3, Pirates of the Caribbean 2: Dead Man's Chest, 2 Fast 2 Furious, Elektra, and all the Bring It On sequels.


I liked JP3. Although JP2 sucked. Also I liked the third matrix the best probably. I don't know I guess I like fight scenes that are huge. I'm talking about the machine ones not the Neo and Smith ones.
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