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Rogue
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Posted on 03-06-07 02:13 AM Link | Quote
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/03/04/business/daylight.php

Originally posted by Herald Tribune
More daylight saving time may hamper computers
By Steve Lohr
Published: March 5, 2007

NEW YORK: Two years ago, when the U.S. Congress passed a law to extend daylight saving time by a month, the move seemed a harmless step that would let Americans burn a little less fossil fuel and enjoy a bit more sunshine.

Representative Fred Upton, a Republican from Michigan, predicted that children would "rejoice" at the prospect of an extra hour of daylight trick-or- treating on Halloween in October. But there is no rejoicing among corporate technology managers, who must reset countless computer clocks.

The change takes effect next Sunday as daylight saving time begins three weeks earlier (and ends a week later, on the first Sunday in November) in the United States.

This puts the United States out of sync with the rest of the world for longer than usual this spring, almost certainly disrupting not just computers but the business and travel schedules of unprepared companies, workers and travelers. Most of Europe goes to daylight saving time March 25 — two weeks after the States — while most of Asia, Africa and South America do not observe daylight saving time at all.

Many companies are now scrambling to reset BlackBerry e-mail devices, desktop PCs and big data-center computers used to automate payrolls, purchasing and manufacturing.

Any device that has an internal clock looms as a potential problem and must be tweaked for the time change, usually with a software patch. Most internal clocks in computing devices are programmed for the old daylight-time calendar, which Congress set in 1986.

"It's a massive amount of work to get everything in order," said Kim Stevenson, a vice president at EDS, a large technology services company. "And the do-nothing plan is a high-risk plan."

The daylight-time shift, according to technology executives and analysts, amounts to a "mini-Y2K." That is a reference to the rush in the late 1990s to change old software, which was unable to recognize dates in the new millennium, 2000 and beyond.

The fear was that computers would go haywire, and there were warnings of planes falling from the skies and electronic commerce grinding to a halt. Billions of dollars were ultimately invested to fix the so-called millennium bug, and there was no wave of computer-related disasters.

This time, with extended daylight saving time, the problem is subtler. The potential pitfall is a disruption of business, if the clocks inside all kinds of hardware and software systems do not sync up as they are programmed to do.

In a business world that is increasingly computerized and networked, there could be effects on everything from programmed stock trading to just-in-time manufacturing to meeting schedules.

The latest Windows operating system, Vista, is not affected, and for those running Windows XP Service Pack 2, online software updates have been pushed out automatically to correct the problem.

"This is mainly an annoyance for consumers, but it's a major headache for corporate technology departments," said Jeffrey Hammond, an analyst at Forrester Research.

For the roughly 7,000 public companies in the United States, Hammond estimates the total cost of making computer fixes to deal with the daylight saving time shift at more than $350 million.

The impact extends beyond computers themselves. For example, utilities have begun deploying sophisticated time-of-use meters that measure electricity consumption, often at 15- or 30- minute intervals. They charge different rates at different times of day — mainly for large commercial customers — as part of the utilities' programs to manage peak loads on their grids.

Those meters have to be reprogrammed for the daylight saving time shift, sending technicians out for on-site visits costing $40 to $200 each, according to Rick Nicholson, an analyst at IDC.

The energy savings from extending daylight time are not great, but could mount, according to studies. A report last year by the U.S. Department of Energy projected savings in electricity at four-tenths of a percent per day of extended daylight savings time — or three one-hundredths of a percent of annual electricity use. Summer time modestly reduces evening electricity use.

The American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy, a nonprofit group, estimates that the cumulative benefit through 2020 of longer daylight saving time would be a saving of $4.4 billion and 10.8 million metric tons less carbon spewed into the air.

The major software suppliers are offering patches and assistance to customers. Microsoft has a Web site to help corporate customers and consumers, the Daylight Saving Time Help and Support Center, at microsoft.com/ dst2007.

"This is a challenge for the whole industry," said Rich Kaplan, vice president for customer service at Microsoft. "But for most users, this is mainly a nuisance issue. It's not as if you're going to lose any data — your documents, e- mail, digital music or pictures."

Gregor Bailar, chief information officer at Capital One, a large bank and credit card company, has led a lengthy program to get all its data centers and PCs ready for the daylight saving time shift.

For most people in business, Bailar said, the main problem is going to be synching calendars and meeting schedules.

"My advice to the common Luddite is to confirm, confirm and reconfirm your appointments in March and April," he said.

Or perhaps not. Bailar suggested another option: "What better excuse to miss that boring budget meeting, at least for a month?"


Just for reference next week.
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Posted on 03-06-07 02:41 AM Link | Quote
I hate it.

- It'll be more annoying to close at work (we close at 7:00) since it won't be dark early.

Damn people. "Hey darling lets go get our oil changed after dinner! YUMMY"
FX

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Posted on 03-06-07 02:46 AM Link | Quote
FUCK! This sucks. I have to walk to the bus at just past 6 in the morning, and it's usually pitch dark (like, I can't see 5 feet in front of myself), and freezing. I don't really mind the cold, but the dark. Recently, it's actually been light, but with daylight savings it will be fucking dark again...

*storms the fuck off*
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Posted on 03-06-07 11:54 AM Link | Quote
As long as my laptop and phone switch accordingly, I don't really mind. I just find it odd that this will save money.
Belial

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Since: 01-29-05
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Posted on 03-06-07 12:58 PM Link | Quote
I really see no real reason for them to do this...it's kind of retarded.
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Posted on 03-06-07 01:04 PM Link | Quote
Do other countries even do this?
insectduel

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Since: 02-16-07
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Posted on 03-06-07 02:02 PM Link | Quote
I really don't mind about this. Summer is coming. Not literally.
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Marco








Since: 12-17-04
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Posted on 03-06-07 02:16 PM Link | Quote
Wow... dark mornings again. Sounds like a blast to me. [That last sentence was loaded with sarcasm]. I don't really see any prominant need for them to do this at all really. So maby we get an extra hour of light for what, a month? Why can't we just wait? But all in all I don't really care. Just seems kinda pointless and not worth the trouble.
Katana

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Posted on 03-06-07 02:38 PM Link | Quote
That damned groundhog didn't see his shadow this year! I blame him! I also blame him for not biting the asshole who rips him out of his home every year...

As a kid, I always loved Daylight Savings Time. Always liked the sunset, and was able to enjoy it more during the summer since by the time the sky started getting dark, the day was over and I could actually watch it more. During the winter, even though the sun was going down, the day wasn't over and I was still running around with homework, the kids, crapola like that.

However, this is kinda insane. It said that Europe does this, but Asia, Africa, and South America doesn't...I dunno. Maybe it's because its been this way my whole life, but I don't mind Daylight Savings Time, but I don't agree with it coming up so soon...

**hugs FX** Up until last year I had to have my ass out the door by 6, so I know how that feels. Sorry. I hated having to leave in the dark too.
FX

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Posted on 03-06-07 09:02 PM Link | Quote
The reason they do it is because sunrise and sunset are getting steadily earlier. What's sunrise now? 6:00-6:30? A month after daylight savings it will be the same time again.

They do it so the sun doesn't rise at 4 o'clock.

That's basically the gist of it...
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Since: 12-29-04
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Posted on 03-06-07 11:18 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Metal
Do other countries even do this?


"Most of Europe goes to daylight saving time March 25 — two weeks after the States — while most of Asia, Africa and South America do not observe daylight saving time at all."

it was in the article
Jexim

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Since: 10-07-04
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Posted on 03-07-07 11:17 AM Link | Quote
I don't know, I don't think it really change much of anything, it'll be something to get used to, but once you do, you won't care in the least, with the planet changing slowly and what not we're bound to get changes like this once in awhile... I'm still waiting for them to announce that leap year is every 2 years now... or that it's been cut out all together
Belial

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Since: 01-29-05
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Posted on 03-07-07 03:13 PM Link | Quote
They can't change the leap year... There IS a reason for it. As most of us know, a day is not exactly 24 hours. It is slightly less (I don't know exactly how much less...). Every 4 years is when that time accumulates into a full day. If we had no leap year, our months would constantly change. Eventually, July would be in winter, although that would probably take a reeaallly long time.
FX

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Posted on 03-07-07 04:21 PM Link | Quote
Actually, it's because a year is really 365.25 days long. They shave off that quarter of a day, and add them all back on every 4 years.
Jexim

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Posted on 03-07-07 04:47 PM Link | Quote
exactly, and the reason that the year is that long, is because of the earth's orbit, and you can't possibly believe that our orbit is completely unchanging... right? so eventually the year is going to either get longer or shorter... and how do you think they're going to fix that? they're going to change leap year
Belial

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Since: 01-29-05
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Posted on 03-08-07 01:55 PM Link | Quote
The year is that long because of the hours in a day.

If they change leap year, they would have to readjust our ENTIRE calendar. That would suck.
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Since: 12-17-04
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Posted on 03-08-07 02:11 PM Link | Quote
I don't think they could readjust the entire calender. It would cause too much confusion worldwide that it would not be worth it in the long run. I think we would have more luck adjusting to winter in June than having the entire year shifted.
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Since: 02-16-07
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Posted on 03-09-07 03:26 PM Link | Quote
You know it's kinda retarded when Summer comes in December when it's christmas.

Then I'll be dead by the heatwaves.
Rogue
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Posted on 03-11-07 08:25 AM Link | Quote
Just a reminder to the lot of you to turn your clocks forward now.

This was the first time I can ever remember being awake during the time change forward. Was at a bar with Zoso's band, after their set, and when it hit last call (2 a.m.), it was immediately 3.

Meh, that wasn't interesting, but I wanted to say more than the above.

Um... screw Flanders!
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Since: 12-17-04
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Posted on 03-12-07 02:21 PM Link | Quote
The clock on this computer I am useing at school is still an hour behind. I don't have the "privlages" to change it. I have decided that I like the extra sun. Though it has thrown me off a little.
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