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| Logos Posts: 579/641 |
Originally posted by NUCKLEARKNIGHTOriginally posted by Rogue I laughed. Originally posted by Vulkar I was thinking more of the intrinsic value of a human life. Would it be any less tragic if the people killed were just normal people? Originally posted by The Politician Do you know who killed Hitler? Hitler. |
| kyle s kenedy Posts: 134/139 |
Originally posted by Cairoi your missing the point killing people in the past kept our genes in the pool. killing can be mindless but it can also take a lot of thoght and carful planing. of course what he did is wrong he killed at least 30 innocent lives but i am saying the act of killing isnt wrong of in its own self. you simply label it as wrong if you kill humans which it is. now that i think about it most of the time i just want to mame not kill people too becuase causing pain with violance is way better than killing someone id rather have them suffer acorrding to your logic you know just take pemenant use of there eye or paralize them for life. hitler i would not have killed because that could alter the future to a point where none of us exist you have no idea the reprocussins that could have anything could happen. |
| Cairoi Posts: 2254/3807 |
Kyle? I can quite say I've never wanted to kill someone. I might have wanted to punch tons of people in the face, but I've never wanted to kill someone.
And Kyle? How does this killing ensure life? It's a mindless, heartless, and undefendable assault on people. If one life was innocent, then what he did was wrong. And I wouldn't kill Hitler if I had the chance, either. Check TP's post for a great explanation. |
| 天国JOE Posts: 1638/2999 |
I wouldn't kill Hitler if I had the chance to go back in time to do it. It was part of the course of history, and I don't want to undo those past things. My grandpa was born in Norway during the final year of WWII. For all I know, he may not have come to Canada, thus me not being born, if I were to kill Hitler? This is of course among the others things that have arisen from the second world war, positive and negative. Yeah, the death of so many people is tragic. But it happened, and I wouldn't change the past. Unless of course, the Earth was destroyed by many many nukes going off by one man. The whole human race dead? Well, there really isn't much of "living on" past that, so I probably would take that shot at the nuke guy.
But that's beside the point. As for the Virginia Tech thing, lots of people have lost their lives, the guy was nuts, and it's quite horrible. No way should so many young lives be taken. But they were. Stuff like this will continue to happen for all time. If by some chance we end up as a crime less society like in Demolition Man, well, for anyone who saw that movie, it was a pretty lame life. |
| Bitmap Posts: 4227/7838 |
I know im walking on hot water when I say this. So just kinda hear me out.
Earlier someone said if they were to given the chance to kill Hitler, well, I thought about this and I just wanted to say. "I wouldn't." Why? Because its not for me to decide when to end a life, all of these incidences that have occurred in time, Columbine, Hitler, and other times where there were mass amounts of murder. I wouldn't stop it. Because it was the victims time to go. I dunno, I just cant exactly fathom something that I cant do. But what I CAN say is I can help prevent future mishaps like those from happening. Its history, and America/ other countries are learning from their previous mistakes. Take 9/11, no one could prevent that, but it also made America a more tighter place to prevent future terrorist attacks like that from happening. |
| NUCKLEARKNIGHT Posts: 257/577 |
Originally posted by kyle s kenedy I understand this. If you were given the chance to kill Hitler I think that you would take the opportunity to kill him and end the suffering of people caused by him. However I do not think that killing an innocent human that will not have an impact on the world just because he doesn't matter is all right. |
| kyle s kenedy Posts: 130/139 |
Originally posted by Cairoi but we do and always will i agree that it is wrong and goes agenst every thing i am but you cant tell me that you have never ever thought about killing someone and we will never know now if they would have changed the world because it was there fate to die at that time simple as that. we are given the power to kill because killing is neccesary not neccesarallly humans but it is a fact we have to kill things to ensure life. so the act of killing isnt what you care about it is the act of killing a human that matters. |
| Elara Posts: 4321/9736 |
No, that is still something we don't know. All we know is that the guy was mentally disturbed and felt that they had forced him into a corner. I guess that he got made fun of too many times. I don't understand why that keeps happening... I mean, after Columbine happened why do people keep picking on the loners? More and more it seems like poking a starving bear. |
| NUCKLEARKNIGHT Posts: 254/577 |
As Vulkar said, get your punctuation and grammar down Panda.
I couldn't watch the movies but did they tell why he went on the rampage? |
| Lord Vulkas Mormonus Posts: 2093/4541 |
I had a really, really, REALLY hard time reading your post Panda. I'm not trying to insult you or anything, but please try and make your posts understandable.
However, I think that I get the gist of what you're trying to say. What you're saying is that plenty of bad things happen all the time, and plenty of people get murdered. Just because people get killed every day doesn't make it any less sad that more people got killed, does it? Evils of this world aren't based on what usually happens. Murder, death, and immorality are not usually comparative terms. Now, if you're dead(I couldn't understand that part), how does their potential to help this world remain? |
| Panda_Man2006 Posts: 28/32 |
Originally posted by Vulkarobviouisly you still havent understand havent you there potential wasnt taking from them they still have it in them and it can still continue to be with them forever if it wanted it to be and i never said that they diserved to die nor i ever said i enjoyed their slaughter i was only happy to hear the enjoyment of some news channel about some guy that killed 32 non-innocent or say half werent innocent and the others were of people than some boring supercomputer crap....oh and I never said about you or anybody to agree what i have to say cause really its just a saying not an agree or disagree habit and all you had to do was to ignore it but you decided to speak about it also with others...and in my own mouth when i even saw it i said *that must suck for them* . The other fact is that people are just dieing no matter where it happens even if they die from old age, shot themselves in the head, car accidents, killing blacks from the kkk, hitmans killing others for money, prostitutes getting slaughtered by men, cannibals eating people graves or human flesh, man slaughter, revenge of one another, the holocaust from those fucking nazi's, sacrifices on rituals, man or kid killing a parent for nothing, beating someone to death over a girl, gang wars, police men killing innocent people themselves, religious wars, the veitnam war, d day, also getting killed for what they look, hello!!! there is killing in many places, i also have so many to explain about innocent people that died compare to this and i bet many wanted to acheive something in the future that is still with them and the most rediculous crap of them alll is none of you can do anything about it which is sad as hell to hear or even see the only lives that anyone saves is only about 30% maybe even less because of this. so if you want to know about innocent people and death this list will help. thats all i have to say oh yeah forgot a punk kid got runned over 2 times back and fourth on the body and was killed by a hick or jock whatever he was just because over the way that kid looks that proves how rediculous it was for him to die as much as the 32 people. next time come with something better than crap info people speak of. |
| NUCKLEARKNIGHT Posts: 249/577 |
I did hear that the teacher that held the door was a holocaust survivor but I did not know that the shooting too place on a holocaust remembrance day. Coincidence? Probably. |
| Makura Posts: 1266/1555 |
Yeah seriously. I mean that would be the equivalent of balaming all of the Mid- East for 9/11. But for some people that wouldn't seem so far fetched. |
| Astrophel Posts: 1721/2724 |
Originally posted by MakuraWay to show your morals, dumbasses! 
Seriously, what the fuck would more senseless killing accomplish? I also see that Panda Man has captured an entire flock of the elusive bird known as the Period, and he hasn't given them room to spread out. |
| Makura Posts: 1262/1555 |
I'm not sure if you guys have heard about this, but one of the professor's he shot was a holocaust survivor. Also, the event took place on international Holocaust rememberance day. Also Cho's family has been recieving death threats because the common person in America is an ignorant fuck head. |
| Lord Vulkas Mormonus Posts: 2087/4541 |
Panda Man, while you are allowed your opinion, and allowed to voice it as long as it doesn't flame people, I'm not sure that many people, including me, would agree with you on that subject.
However, I fail to see how you can be happy to hear the information that he murdered thirty-two innocent people, none of them deserving of death, and all of them with a future ahead of them. Now, I'm going to aruge on your terms as to why their death was bad. See, while everyone dies eventually, and death is enevitable, these people have potential to the world. One of them could have cured cancer, another could have invented a new type of supercomputer, and others might have helped people who need it. So, these people had potential in this world, and because they were murdered, their potential is taken from this world. So, now you can see yet another reason to not feel happy when people are murdered. |
| Panda_Man2006 Posts: 27/32 |
Originally posted by ElaraHA HA HA........ such laughter in a world like this of humanity telling about my serious issues when they dont understand there own, how sad......but other wise its not just my issues its the worlds issues |
| Bitmap Posts: 4204/7838 |
Why do you not blame someone who shot and killed 32 people because of something so stupid? He shot the people, hes held accountable, and hes responsible for his own actions.
I would say something here, but I dont want to get a Flame War started. Im just going to walk away and pretend I diddnt hear anything. |
| Astrophel Posts: 1720/2724 |
Originally posted by Elara Among which would be some grammar issues... I had to reread his post twice to make some sense of it. Punctuation, motherfucker!  |
| Elara Posts: 4318/9736 |
You have some serious issues Panda Man. |
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