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[quote=Rogue][quote=Dergoex]Damn that The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. :([/quote]
Actually, yeah, it's appropriate to attach the blame on LXG. He was sort of in retirement at the time when he was offered parts in The Matrix and Lord of the Rings, but he decided against it because he didn't get what they were supposed to be about (despite his starring in things like Highlander).

When those became huge, he decided to accept the role in LXG (despite not getting it either) and when it bombed he declared that Hollywood was run by idiots these days and left the business.

He denied the rumors that he'd be back for Indy 4 saying that his retirement was too much fun.

Who knows? The might convince him to pop in for a cameo at the end. Don't expect it, but maybe--just maybe.

EDIT: I've also forgotten to mention that I think a lot of the epic pride and love that we feel about Indy (I have that, at least, not sure about most people in this generation) is lost on the generation below ours.

This past Christmas when my cousin came to visit with her kids (a 12yo who was a few days from 13, 8yo, and 4yo), I put on Raiders of the Lost Ark because I figured they could watch that since most of my movies are relatively inappropriate for them or would go just over their heads and I didn't want to throw in an animated movie.

The 12-year-old, Keith, wouldn't stop asking questions about it (Why did Indy do that? Why would the nazis want a giant, shiny box? Who's that? Who's that guy with the hat? What's going on?). The 8-year-old, Maddie, kept laughing about how cheesy she thought it was, and the 4-year-old, Wyatt, was too busy exploring my walk-in closet.

Even when it got to the melting/exploding nazis scene at the end, they were completely unmoved. Maddie continued laughing about it, Keith was puzzled, but was Googling "High School Musical" girls naked so he was busying himself with that, and Wyatt was trying on my shoes and dancing around with my foxtail that he pulled out of the closet.

They were interested in seeing Temple of Doom, which I popped in, but once again they were either asking questions or making fun of it.

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Xeoman Posts: 7316/11757	My friends showed me a scene of it today (they downloaded it apparently, lol). The scene with the fridge ... WTF! We thought it was funny how he just instantly gets up and walks away from it.
Rogue Posts: 4359/11918	Originally posted by Xeoji I definitely want to see this despite most of my friends thinking it looks terrible. It really is worth checking out if you're a big Indy fan. Like I said, though, it does reach a certain point when it just goes downhill. Fun movie. Worth watching. May make you slap your forehead a few times.
Xeoman Posts: 7311/11757	I definitely want to see this despite most of my friends thinking it looks terrible. I really don't like Shia too much anymore ... or kind of like Katana said, he still has a way to go before he can really pull off some good serious roles. I wasn't too excited to hear he plays a big part in this (I think?) but meh, whatev!
Katana Posts: 2468/3649	Originally posted by Rogue But seriously the whole balance of "This is kinda good" and "Oh god, why?!" completely falls apart the second Shia grabs onto that second vine and starts swinging. In that very instant the movie began its descent into a downward spiral. I wanted to shoot myself. I wanted to shoot myself when another fear about certain charries came true. (I don't know how to do the spoiler tag....if someone could tell me, that'd be awesome. ) He was one of the biggest reasons why I was on the fence about this movie. There were very small details about the movie that I happened to enjoy thoroughly. Those kept the damned thing afloat for me (as far as story goes...I could see the movie again and again just based off of how "pretty" it was) Slightly off topic I guess, but when I saw it tonight...I think I died happy before the movie started. I caught a glimpse of the best previews I've seen in my entire life. HellBoy II? I don't care what anyone says...I LOVED the first one...and this one looks sooo much better. I know who to thank for that though...~_^
Rogue Posts: 4353/11918	I wasn't attacking the latest on realism--but seriously when are you going to see people melt like sno-cones or continue living despite having their heart pulled out or age REALLY REALLY quickly? No, this one just took the franchise and ran off with it in a direction that made me almost die a little inside. They chose THAT script?! Of all the scenarios, of all the endings, of all the artifacts to go after? REALLY? Another thing that makes me slightly sad is how this just fell into a formula based on the past flicks--everyone pretty much just fell into place in a flat and ultra-predictable way. Just look for the cliche archetypes. They're seriously there. Like I said, I enjoyed it. That's all I can say. To an extent I enjoy most movies though. But seriously the whole balance of "This is kinda good" and "Oh god, why?!" completely falls apart the second Shia grabs onto that second vine and starts swinging. In that very instant the movie began its descent into a downward spiral.
Katana Posts: 2457/3649	I just saw this tonight. My reaction? My boyfriend worded it nicely. I was having a "nerdgasm" the whole time. Both previous comments I couldn't agree more with though. Like Rogue said, it really was like the X-Files meets National Treasure. But it was also not to bad being "unrealistic." My boyfriend pointed out a few things, like how there was no blood when there obviously should have been. Ehh...had to keep the PG rating somehow. (PG, PG13, whatever it was...) It wasn't the GREATEST thing out there...but for the damned thing being the 4th movie in a world where sequels can mean the death of something great, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was pretty damned kickass. I didn't care too much for Shia LeBuff(sp?) I usually like the guy...but the poor kid has a long way to go before I can see him in a truly mature role (Basically un-EvenStevens kinda thing.) Disturbia was good. He was slightly more serious, but a goofy teenage boy still...it was a nice mix. I think the guy has a decent career ahead of him if he makes the transition slowly. But...I just wasn't feeling him for this movie. And like I predicted from the preview...Lucas and Speilberg did NOT do what I feared most about this movie--Ignore Indy's age. :p They made sure you saw his age, without making Indy un-kickass. (I mean, there were still some "unrealistic" tendencies, but like Val said, it's only a movie.) And the cinematography...absolutely breathtaking. EVERYTHING about it. The costumes, the set... And Marion and Indy? That crapola got too campy for me at times. I mean, I liked the suspense in the begining. I still kinda knew it would be one of Indy's old girls (I read NO rumors/spoilers of this movie prior to seeing it tonight) but then once you met her, it was like "BAM! We're SOOOOO in love!"
Cteno Posts: 460/3416	Too many people try to hold Indiana Jones movies in a realistic sense. You just can't do that. Also, old fans said that this new one was too "unrealistic". Well, if you go back and watch the old ones again, they were pretty unrealistic too. It's an Indiana Jones movie. It's supposed to be mindless fun and the archeology is supposed to smash and break everything of value except the one thing Indy is after. I loved the movie and that's all it is: a movie.
Rogue Posts: 4346/11918	As a lifelong Indy fan, I can say the new movie was enjoyable, but it felt like watching the other three movies ground up and with a couple slivers of the same sight-gags and lines thrown together. A lot of it was really predictable, but oh well. Also 20 years time between the start of this all and now has taken away a lot of the intensity in Indy and Marion--they almost come out off like bad impersonations of themselves. In the end, it's a good movie with a decent new story, though I'm not really big on what it all was about... Spoiler: Aliens EDIT: Last night, while sitting down to dinner with my parents at this restaurant, I had picked up the local paper for the area that place was in and read their ultimately negative review of Indy. They described it as National Treasure meets The X-Files. I couldn't agree more.
Cteno Posts: 424/3416	Originally posted by Rogue Originally posted by Dergoex The 12-year-old, Keith, wouldn't stop asking questions about it (Why did Indy do that? Why would the nazis want a giant, shiny box? Who's that? Who's that guy with the hat? What's going on?). The 8-year-old, Maddie, kept laughing about how cheesy she thought it was, and the 4-year-old, Wyatt, was too busy exploring my walk-in closet. You know that you can't let them live. Strike them down. Something something something Dark Siiiiide... Something something something Unlimited Power....
Lord Vulkas Mormonus Posts: 2946/4541	At this point it would be a bit late anyway, the script, cast, and filming are way too finalized to go and add him in. Oh well, maybe they'll get lucky and add him to the video game.
Rogue Posts: 4214/11918	So yeah, still no luck on luring Sean Connery out of retirement. I'm kinda hoping he's just pretending to be uninterested.
Elara Posts: 4755/9736	Temple of Doom I found boring last time I tried to watch it, but I absolutely love the other two and can't wait for this one to come out!
Fennicy Posts: 543/546	Yeah I definitely can't wait for this to come out. I've always loved the Indiana Jones movies. Watched them almost three times each.
Rogue Posts: 4107/11918	Oh I know all about that. It's just I hope that it doesn't come off that way like other movies (i.e. Rocky, Rambo, Die Hard 4: Live Free or Die Hard, etc) can seem to some people. I remember reading so many different scripts online, since I was 14, that were claimed to be the "real" fourth Indiana Jones movie that was going to be made. I even dated this guy, Steven Frye (No, not the 50-somethingish British writer), who wrote one about Indy seeking out Excalibur. His script was actually discovered by several magazines who posted it around as the genuine script as well after it had been stolen by someone else who put their name on it. I think it's float about under the title Indiana Jones and the Sword of Arthur. If I remember right the one that was pushed the most as the supposed true story was Indy seeking out the immortal peaches of the Chinese Monkey King/God. That one even had a part that was written specifically for Britney Spears, as Indy's fangirl-like assistant. In one scene she was stuck in a barrel of bananas and had to eat her way out. In recent years, people were pushing the idea that the fourth movie would be about Atlantis. Ironic, though, since the Crystal Skull "kingdom" is supposedly very Atlantis-like in terms of it was believed to be highly advanced. We'll see how it comes out. EDIT: Forgot to mention in the mid-90s when there was supposedly talk of an Indiana Jones and the Lost Continent flick in the making starring Sandra Bullock as Indy's female sidekick, but obviously that didn't happen. And THAT was supposed to be about finding Atlantis.
Lord Vulkas Mormonus Posts: 2901/4541	Originally posted by Rogue "Hey kids! We got the original actors from something you loved growing up to come back out of the blue and put together an unnecessary sequel because we're all out of ideas and we want you to take your children to see this despite their not understanding anything about it that you love!" Thumbs up Actually, if you do a bit of research, you could find that people have been trying to get this film ever since the Last Crusade came out. It's just that the script was redone a ton of times, and on multiple occaisons the directors wanted to make something else first. So really, this whole movie has been a substantial example of procrastination.
Katana Posts: 2397/3649	I REALLY liked Rambo though...and in Mr. Stallone's defense...it's his career, these are his biggest movies. A lot of these great people are doing things like this because...well, they want to. They've done their time. The ones that are still throwing in things later in their career are probably just trying to enjoy themselves, or end projects they've worked so hard on with a note that satisfies THEM. shrugs Which, in a way, if that sorta happens to this Indy film...Sure, I'll be disappointed as a fan, but as someone who aspires to have a career such as directing, I know I would like to be in that position someday. Having put my time in and saying "Hey guys. I really hope you like it, because this is what I want to do." But not be too heart broken if people disliked something. I gotta have respect for people who end their career like that. Ending it just as they started. Doing something they dreamed of.
FX Posts: 3202/3775	Originally posted by Rogue Thank you, Rocky. Rambo too. Or, rather, Sylvester Stalonne in general.
Katana Posts: 2396/3649	Originally posted by Katana What I like about it is, it's obviously after the other films. Like, they're not trying to make Harrison look like he's a 30 year old man. Indy even makes cracks on his aging! "I thought that was closer." Haha! :p
Rogue Posts: 4102/11918	When I watched the trailer the first time around and I heard Indy say, "Damn, I thought that was closer" it came off like they were parodying themselves. I mean Indy isn't as young as he used to be so it makes sense that he'd make old man mistakes, but jeez, he just went through someone's windshield. In the end, while I know I'll love this movie unconditionally no matter what, I truly hope it doesn't go the way of other film series out there. "Hey kids! We got the original actors from something you loved growing up to come back out of the blue and put together an unnecessary sequel because we're all out of ideas and we want you to take your children to see this despite their not understanding anything about it that you love!" Thumbs up Thank you, Rocky.
Xeoman Posts: 7016/11757	Yeah, the crowd seeing this movie will probably be more around our age and older I bet.
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