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| Squire Vince Posts: 175/1586 |
But but but... the light side has bran muffins! <.< I'm going to the dark side |
| Phoenixocracy Posts: 949/2746 |
...yes. |
| Elara Posts: 5814/9736 |
Only if you want to be, Phoenix. Come to the dark side... we have cookies. |
| Phoenixocracy Posts: 943/2746 |
Originally posted by Elara  I love that book.
I hope that doesn't make me a morbid little bitch. |
| Elara Posts: 5806/9736 |
I read that entire book cover to cover and it honestly was not that bad. Honestly, I found it vastly more entertaining and felt cheated by the Disney versions. But then again, I am a morbid little bitch, so that isn't very surprising. |
| Phoenixocracy Posts: 934/2746 |
Almost all of these stories (excluding 101 dalmatians) can be found in their truly awful versions in a book called "Grimm's Fairy Tales". If you are looking to have your childhood removed, please, invest in this book. |
| Elara Posts: 5800/9736 |
How about the original Cinderella... yeah, step-sisters cutting off parts of their feet. That is dramatic! |
| Lord Vulkas Mormonus Posts: 3598/4541 |
101 Dalmatians, as far as I know, is actually the only Disney film to show two married people, and have both of them survive the entire movie.
As for the happy ending, well, Disney makes childrens films. I'll tell you right now, if I saw the original Hunchback of Notre Dame movie when I was five, I'd be emotionally scarred. Disney instead has the strong storytelling practice of keeping things heavy in the beginning, lighter in the middle, then heavier as the climax approaches, and then a happily ever after in the conclusion. Does it make a bad movie? No, I don't think so. It just makes things for children who want tome happy fun. |
| Rogue Posts: 5893/11918 |
Originally posted by vince_rigle That's true with a good chunk of the characters (primarily the princesses, especially those during Disney's renaissance period which lasted the late '80s through the early '00s). They seem to love showing that the princesses formed a tighter bond with their fathers, but then you have these male animal characters that have a closer bond with Mom (Bambi, Dumbo). While several characters never have their parents introduced (Alice, Aladdin, Peter Pan, Mowgli, Esmeralda, Megara, etc), there are still some that escape the losing parents/one-already-gone-for-unexplained-reasons stereotype: Mulan, Hercules, Aurora, Wendy/John/Michael, all those dalmatians (granted most were adopted, but the original 16 out of the 99 still had both parents). There are others I'm probably forgetting. Oh and to continue this trend... READ: Greek mythology Heracles was the love child of Zeus and Alcmena (not of Hera), who then marries Megara and in a fit kills her and their children. |
| Phoenixocracy Posts: 928/2746 |
Originally posted by CairoiOriginally posted by Xeios Read: Snow White |
| Cairoi Posts: 3607/3807 |
Originally posted by Xeios Read: The Little Mermaid. |
| Xeios Posts: 2771/2954 |
Disney movies in general are adapted sad stories to make the ending happier.
Read: Pinnochio. |
| Squire Vince Posts: 158/1586 |
Yes she is. But also Disney has ONE way of making the plot darker almost none of the disney characters have both of their parents. I think they have a check list.
1. Animated 2. Happy Ending 3. Take away. a parent for good measure. |
| Rogue Posts: 5889/11918 |
Wasn't she also tried for the death of Phoebus?
Yeah, "Hunchback of Notre Dame" was definitely a sad story, and while Disney's version is beautiful (though the gargoyles sort of take away from that) they painted on a happy ending just to please the kids. But then again, that's the Disney's renaissance went -- beautiful animation, but forced happy endings (Little Mermaid, etc). I mean, were they to keep with Mulan's story, she would come home, her parents would say welcome back, and then proceed to carve the names of their enemies into her back and say that she needs to go kill all of these people now that she's a badass warrior. |
| Squire Vince Posts: 155/1586 |
I have recently come to research the original version of this movie (nothing like Disney's version). In this version Frollo tries to arrest Esmerelda but she is saved by the Hunchback. She then denies his attempts to show his love. She rejects him and tells him she doesn't like him, then she returns to the multiple suitors trying for her hand. Later in the story Frollo captures her and sends her to be hanged. But who swoops in, in the knick of time? NO ONE! She dies and is buried. But then the Hunchback, the guy she DENIED lays by her grave until he starves to death! You tell me, saddest story ever? |
