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| Cteno Posts: 2279/3409 |
If you have tried everything and just can't get 1 to work, then it's forgivable to skip to 2. At least in my opinion.  |
| Xeoman Posts: 9393/11751 |
So in your opinion is it cool to play 2 without having played 1? Maybe I can just watch an LP of 1 if there's one up there... haha. Because I did play the first level of 2 and LOVED it (I love old Eidos stuff), but someone yelled at me for playing that one first. But I just can't get 1 to work, lol. |
| Cteno Posts: 2277/3409 |
Yeah, I enjoyed Thief III for the most part, but T2 remains my favourite in the series. I prefer T3 over the first one, however. |
| Xeoman Posts: 9388/11751 |
Originally posted by NelrithOriginally posted by 7 *still enjoying IW for it is despite all these horrible technical issues* lol. I guess most importantly I have to ask, does it have the onslaught of loading screens and insanely small area's? I tend to hear Thief III is kind of weak sauce compared to the first two in general though. Who knows. I have tried absolutely everything there is to try in attempting to get the original Thief running on Win7 though, but to no avail. I even downloaded both the original version and the Gold version, did all the tweaks and config edits I could, everything... but it still crashes after like 5 minutes of playing. I think Thief 2 ended up working, but it doesn't seem right to jump into that one first. I guess I might do it though since it doesn't look like I'll be playing Thief anytime soon. I own Thief III on Steam though, so I'll probably get to it sometime. |
| Cteno Posts: 2272/3409 |
Originally posted by 7 The difference is that Thief III is a good, solid game.  |
| Xeoman Posts: 9381/11751 |
I didn't know that about Enhanced, haha nice.
You definitely want New Vision! Updates just about most of the world textures. It's kind of pathetic how well the original game runs (especially with that DX10 renderer), compared to Invisible War which runs like ass. First off, I had to add an exception to DEP so it wouldn't crash upon start up, had to get a mod to make widescreen work (okay that's not anything to totally complain about), and then there's loading screens out the ass like every 5-10 minutes, and in Win7 whenever that happens the game minimizes like it just crashed on you... but no it's okay just loading another area! Oh and it crashed on me once when I quicksaved. These issues don't happen in the original. I hear Thief III uses the same engine as Invisible War so now I'm kind of scared to play it. |
| Bitmap Posts: 7450/7838 |
Yeah the one thing that I am looking forward to is playing the original in DX10. Instead of the original DX8 or whatever the hell. Still looked nice after all these years!
Now shifter also ads a balance issue in the game. I think it explains more in the link provided. DE Enhanced just makes the resolution super rediculous and even supports multiple monitors! |
| Xeoman Posts: 9375/11751 |
Originally posted by Bitmap Nice dude, get this stuff for the main game: http://kentie.net/article/dxguide/#downloads - That DX10 Renderer - Deus Exe - Shifter v 1.8.4 (seems to be a fanmade assortment of bugfixes, tweaks, etc) - New Vision (new 75% complete version came out just days ago) - Deus Ex Enhanced (higher resolution UI, text, etc, took awhile to get used too but I like it) Well I just quoted myself from above, so maybe you saw that already. Heh. |
| Bitmap Posts: 7443/7838 |
Oh God I have seen that and instantly re downloaded the original on this computer. Even downloading a buttload of mods and this mod actually sealed it for me. |
| Xeoman Posts: 9355/11751 |
Her vision ... is not augmented.
PS Bitmap I hope you've seen this: (I forget if you're a fan of the original though?) I'm actually replaying Invisible War myself right now with a nice texture pack and everything, I still don't get the hate on this game. It's horribly optimized and has loading screens out the ass... but other than that, still pretty solid. |
| Bitmap Posts: 7428/7838 |
Originally posted by Katana Get out |
| Xeoman Posts: 9353/11751 |
Oh no you didn't! |
| Katana Posts: 3255/3649 |
Originally posted by 7 You're too nice. This game sucked. **goes back to Space Marine.** |
| Xeoman Posts: 9336/11751 |
That's what you get for not beating it yet! 
Anyways I thought what I said was ambiguous enough. They aren't zombies. And side characters, I'm sure you're joking about Letitia (I couldn't find her), but I'm talking good recurring characters that actually matter. You know like Alex Jacobson, Dr. Reeves, Paul Denton, Walter Simmons, Bob Page, Tracer Tong, Gunther and Anna Navarra, Daedalus, Icarus, Helios, and and and... Let's see in HR there's the pilot... and... Pritchard I guess... |
| Bitmap Posts: 7424/7838 |
Originally posted by 7 HEY! SOME PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEATEN THE GAME YET! FUCKING SPOILER THIS FOR ME. THANKS? ASSHOLE E- I take a week into lessons on SC2 and hey, I realise I have not beaten Desu Ex HR yet. AND THIS IS WHAT I SEE!? FUCKING A. E- Side characters? Who could forget that insanely racist character that appeared in the game? You know, that black woman? Who called you "Cap'in"? She was tight, her and I always traded Red Devil beers while she was searching in the garbage for foo- you know what she might have been memorable. But that was still kinda racist. But I love her. Or him. Sounded like a dude. But was a woman. What the fuck SquareEnix AWWWWWW DAYUM CAP'N. |
| Xeoman Posts: 9330/11751 |
Well, here's my detailed complaints:
- Insane lack of good and interesting side characters. Other than Jensen and the pilot, there was really nobody else in the game I legitimately liked. This is crucial, because just like the other games towards the end... you have to decide "who do I side with", but I didn't really care. Not that the endings were that great anyways and you just flip a switch to see all four of them, so you can just keep reloading a final save and see them that way (in this games defense though, the endings in the other games weren't that amazing either). - Boss battles. Do I need to say anymore? Completely out of place in a Deus Ex game. A lot of people are very frustrated with this because if you build a stealth character early on, these bosses are going to be a pain in the ass to take down. You HAVE to fight them and they're godlike tanks. So stupid. - Music, while good and fitting, is basically pure ambiance. It's not that memorable unlike the first games music. - You fight zombies at the end of the game. I'll leave that up to your imagination as to WTF that could literally mean, but yeah it sucked and was very stupid. They even give you some plasma rifle at the end of the game which was pretty useless at that point. - Side missions were very random and didn't feel impactful on the main story at all. - Jensen's Bale Batman voice is a bit much at times. Everyone else sounds normal, but he sounds very strained and it's out of place. Overall, the game felt more like a spinoff of Metal Gear Solid. Now I love my MGS, but that's not Deus Ex. Jensen felt like a tool lapdog throughout the entire game, unlike the original where JC ends up taking matters into his own hands and all. I dunno, the story and scope of HR just didn't feel as big, and I wasn't really engaged with the world as I was the first game, where I was reading every book, newpaper, email, and everything I could... but here, eh. Speaking of emails, the hacking minigame was alright, but 1,000+ terminals later it got pretty old, yet it was one of the only ways to rack in exp. Fairly tedious. Still, definitely check it out. It has its moments, China looks AMAZING and like straight up Blade Runner, but yeah. I think it could have been more. I don't think the dialogue/writing compares to other games this gen like New Vegas, Mass Effect, etc. |
| Cteno Posts: 2230/3409 |
Aww, really? I personally dislike Invisible War and I was hoping that this one would be a nice throwback to the original. :/ |
| Xeoman Posts: 9327/11751 |
Solid game all around, but could have been better if you ask me. I'd put it on par with Invisible War (which I honestly liked). Nothing compared to the original though. |
| Xeoman Posts: 9306/11751 |
Dis game, it's alright. I feel like it could be a lot better, but it's still a lot of fun, addicting when I sit down and play it, and I'm definitely going to finish it.
Bosses are as you said, a total bitch. And it feels really out of place to me in Deus Ex, but oh well. |
| Bitmap Posts: 7376/7838 |
No, Robocop. You fool!
I agree that getting a big freakin gun and just gunning your way through the game is indeed fun. but if you don't have the armor upgrades then good freakin luck! But being the big MGS nerd that I am I really love sneaking around and making people take naps. It's so much fun! Boss fights are REDICULOUS |
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