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| Elara Posts: 2143/9736 |
Evo: Yeah, if you look at the memberlist his name shows up... he just has no posts now is all.
Correction, he has one post. |
| SyntaxLegend Posts: 190/310 |
I used to post heaps when I was a newbie, but now since I have gotten used to boards. I don't really post much, maybe once every 4 days... |
| Evo Posts: 297/871 |
I *feel* the same way, Xeo. Like there is something we can do, but maybe there's not. I mean... I've at one point or another, brought it up to every online community or sorts that I'm a part of, and mentioned it to the people I know IRL.
IS there anything we can do? Elara, I was under the impression that his account got deleted when the board was hacked? Or is that not how it works? In any case, I'll see if I can get him to POST. He'd at least post in the gamer forums. Heh. |
| Xeoman Posts: 2366/11757 |
I just think a lot of people have gotten bored, left, or just don't care ... honestly.
I mean, fact of the matter is, I'm in school all day everyday of the weekday, and then I work 30 hours a week on top of that, and I still get in more posts than a lot of other users, even when it doesn't feel like I'm posting that much at all. I'm not trying to argue, just pointing out a fact. Yeah, it is just a weird time for us all, a lot of us are older and everything, but still even before school was up the activity wasn't that grand. And looking at other boards, I see older people (in their young 20's) as the top and normal posters. So, I don't know what to say. Again, I'm not trying to argue with anyones opinions here, and I agree with a lot of things (Evo's case, College stuff, etc), but still, it just feels like we could be doing -something- to help out, but we're not.  |
| Katana Posts: 567/3649 |
I agree with what Elara said on the whole senior year thing, and jobs and stuff. This year is just weird...as far as work is concerned, no, senior year is not the ultimate tough time. Cuz once you're outta high school, there's real life/college to worry about. Which in my opinion, college is like "real life", only you get graded on how you deal with it.
Anywho...my point is...as far as actual school work is concerned, no this isn't very tough...I've just noticed that even though the work is a bit easier, I have a lot more due in a lot less time. I've also been consumed in visiting colleges, SATs, ACTs, and other extracurricular activities that I'm being offered scholarship money for. Also, my lunch is a pretty early this year, rather than going into a long explanation to why that affects my sugar and why this way actually is better than the other choice, I'll just say that rather than be wide awake during my free time and being online posting and stuff, I'm asleep. That explanation may not affect the board itself really, but it's something that not only holds true for me, but may very well hold true to a lot of other people here. **shrugs** |
| Elara Posts: 2110/9736 |
Originally posted by Evo He did join a long time ago, he just doesn't post. PBoy if I'm not mistaken. |
| Evo Posts: 286/871 |
*nods* It's ok, Xeo. But then again, I did leave because of stuffs. My life had just gotten really busy, and I htink it might be the same wiht others.
Early this year I had two jobs for about 5 months, and that made it REALLY hard to get ANY sleep. I had no free time. *shrugs* Then I was working graveyard, and that was hard. Imagine those that go to school and have jobs. Like Kaijin. But, he never posts much anyway, even before he had a job. I'm gunna try and get my Fiance to join. hopefully that'll be another active poster. As far as getting new members, I don't know how to go about attracing new members. I've had permanant links up on all my websites even while I was inactive, but I don't get much traffic, and those that DO go to my sites are older and looking to buy certain things. (unless they go to my main site). *sighs* If you have any ideas, I'll help. |
| Elara Posts: 2102/9736 |
I'm also noticing that our most active members are mostly entering their senior year of high school or have jobs now, or both; and that also effects things (Xeo, you should know this very well).
At least in California, school is still in session until the last week of June, sometimes it's year round. That is besides the point though. Things will pick up, they always do. |
| Xeoman Posts: 2365/11757 |
I kind of have to disagree with the school idea. Even during the summer, there wasn't too much posting. 146 total posts on June 10.
But again, I am comparing things to the first couple of months when Xeogaming first started ... when we had an easy 300+ everyday, all quality, and everything. Anyways, I'm not closing down this site because of this (the activity is LOW, but it's not -nothing-), and this site will be around for quite some time (I am about to make another payment for the hosting, and as you've seen our hosting is great now). I'm basically in agreement with Benja here. We just need fresh members. It seems like the Shrina people left, and even though that brought up boiled heads, in a sense I kind of liked having them around. Activity was going up. But really, we could use some new, people that have never even heard of this place, and became active. (I mean, we have been getting these members, but you know what I mean). It's good to see a few returning members from MoD come back, like Evo (had to pick on ya  ), but there's still quite a few members who haven't come back. If they did, surely that would help too.
So yeah, like Benja said, even though we have 300+ registered users, 70% of them haven't even posted, and aren't that active. We could really use just some new good newbies if you ask me. |
| Evo Posts: 281/871 |
I've been kind of ignoring this thread because I knew it would go off into a big argurment (Debate Shrine anyone?)...
But as far as negativity, there is a little tension between certain members only in certain threads because people tend to take a personal view on what someone is saying rather than read the post for what it is. I believe I'm guilty of that... Ok. I'm leaving now. |
| Shuyin Posts: 573/1858 |
I'm going to ignore that last post.....
Anywho. Shanan we had a nice long talk about this, but I see you didn't take anything I said into consideration. I'm just going to bring up two points right now. 1.) No one except you believes there is negativity problem on the board. You claim you 'feel' this. But if noone else feels this animosity, chances are you're making it up. 2.) Random jokes will not necessarily do the board any good. We want the board to be taken seriously to some extent. Polluting the board with random things (which Crazy Nonsense and the 'other' forum were made for.) won't be beneficial at all. The only problem this board has at the moment is a small streak of inactivty. |
| Jedi Master Desroth Posts: 328/569 |
Yall swear to much, it harms both yall's intelligence (no offense to either for their word choices). All it is now adays is the same dribble... Blah blah, revoluiton gay; blah blah, that game sucks blah blah bitch fights over nothing
I think we have a serious case of cabin fever. I say Xeo should close this site for a month and bring it up at the end of the month. We all need some time away from here to calm down and relax, see the sun again, stop eating ramen for a day to get mcdonalds, etc. |
| Rauni Posts: 609/1351 |
With some points taken out with respect, Jity, I must also explain back as well...
True, I did became jealous when Leviathan became a judge quickly, but If I remember correctly... He has been missing for a long time right now. So if I have to say that if you quickly jumped to the conclusion on picking someone who are experienced for that already, how do you know that they are going to be there for like... one tournament variable? See how we quickly pick out people, decided to pick one guy, expected him to do some work, and all of the sudden, he's missing? Bravo. You just miss that point. It is not going to help you. Oh, random things as long as it keep its humor isn't "spam". Just saying like "I got my period." is just rather pointless if there is nothing good to contributes to the board. Pretty much, sometime the staff never contributes much but that's just me. And I was pretty sure that Tamarin was cleared of his "hacking" incident. But you failed to notice the point I was refering to. No one like a hacked board and feared of being banned, from a hacker. Okay, so what you are saying is that you works school 14 hours a day. That's nice excuses but please, be a little more specific then that. Why, take a look at Leviathan. He does not have school and also have work to do. Why do you think we hired Leviathan to be the judge and expect him to do some works? Well, now you can say that it was "school" that keeping his away. (Unless he is in college but that's pretty much a different story.) Pretty much, ze school seem pretty much everyone reason's for inactivity, when clearly it was somewhat inactive all day long, including summer time. Jity, what I mean is that: Clearly, just being you are in school doesn't mean that it is a good reason to be "inactive". Like I said before: There are several other things in life that we are all growing up, we are all moving on, and that we are all old enough to be more "mature" about things in our life. And this is a prefect good reason why the board seem so much inactive as it is right now... Probably you and Tamarin did even notice the different activity when school started, but the activity we have now is pretty much the same as we have before. It may be easy for you guys but I believed you need to have a closer look on how long have we been "active" for the last few months, even during the summer. Hell, it takes a WHILE. There are people who STILL have to deal with their lives and STILL have to work their butt off. Just don't point that School = Inactivity. That's just like saying: "The dog ate my homework." Oh, and that thread? I don't get whatever TAMARIN is pointing out, but if you think I am some sort of phycho who doesn't know what life is, just say it in a straight cold fact because I will NOT stand here and see that you should believes whatever Tamarin said and does not have any COLD HARD proof. Not to forget but what about the freedom of speech. Are you saying I can't say anything about my feeling? Even through it could help the board much? Oh wait... THIS MUST WHY IT WAS GETTING INACTIVE IN THE FIRST PLACE! I probably even knew that stuff like this is going to happened, just like how every other damn events just occured! No, I am getting sick of YOU (Jity Horo) and TAMARIN just for jumping to conclusion, believing that I am overreacting so damn much or making up story. Not only that you cares less about this board, but it just reveals the types of unrespectable PEOPLE you are. Since they could look into other people's personal feeling felt somewhat bad about it, you guys could just say: "Oh, to anyone reading this, this guy is mentally ill. Please ignore him." See? This is where YOU are getting ME at. You stack so much lies on me, knowing that I can never be trusted, so that you guys could be pretty much the boss of me, or blackmailling me if you feel like it. I'm tired of YOU or Tamarin to bitch at me because of who I am. If you don't like it, then JUST FUCKING LEAVE ME ALONE! Got that? I am tired of people who agrees and discrimiate against someone's feeling and/or personal option. |
| Jity Horo Posts: 86/155 |
I just want to get my two cents in. I agree with Tamarin on the fact that school has started again. I really don't think work had anything to do with it. You'd think that people would have the same hours during the summer that they have during the school year.
Second I thought the that Tamarin had been cleared of anything involving him "hacking" the board. So thats out. I also thought "random things" passed as spam. Also doesn't Spam=Bad. And the thread that Tamarin linked to was a good point. You seem to have the only problems at all with the board. You seemed down right mad & jealous that Levithan had a chance of becoming a judge. Also, somebody brought it up earlier can't find it, contreversy(sp?) brings people together. This is one of those things. Now all we need is a lot of people bitching at each other and ta-da activity. |
| Rauni Posts: 608/1351 |
Okay, Tamarin, I am going to speak in la ze french voice, which you may to have to pardon me.
1.) Zet's see... If you are having a hard time to read my post, may I suggest to further ignore it and pretend you never read it? It would be more time-saving on your side of the bargain but with all due respect, the first one mean that for those people who are suppose to work on the project for a long time, and yet never finished or got started on it, many people will see dat everyone is not doing a good or effort work. This may show that there is a good reason why other people think they should not join the board. 2.) Randomness jokes are valuable since not just any passing guests take a look at it, but laughter saves many lives, am I correct? Many people do not like any dull or boring jokes since it make us look like a boring board to be at. Since jokes are valuable to very much like to Role-playing, story telling, sim-battling and several other thing that comes to mind. Not only that jokes can reveal the good-nature behavior but it will even make other people feel... oh how should I say this... looking at an well-respected and good sense of humor board. Unless you never understand anything, it is probably you never cared to reach a understanding and preferred things your way. 3.) Just because people are being inactive, doesn't mean they are having school problem. Heck, many people feels that they need to focus on their lives which is more important to spend over the board. If they believed that the board is no longer assistable to them, I suggest to leave them alone since they may come back later, to find what they need and we will be polite. Not only that, but school? What's about our graduation, or ze summer plan, or which college we want to go? Let's us worry on what we should do, and mind our business. Afterall, ze are many reasons why people have to be inactive to get something in ze point of our lives. 4.) Just because hacking became an old new, many people still would be feared of losing everything again. Why, you tried to help this board once and everyone got mad at you since you "hacked" it. Everyone is getting tired of it and probably thought it would be better to spend away from it. If you don't think this is the main problem, the reason why I add this is because after the 2nd hacked time, there was barely any activity and many people has already left. Oh, and let us not forget that we are growing up fast and there are time when we must go on. Is it true, Tamarin, or should we give up our lives to this board, hoping to get something better then this? 5.) The reason why fame or popularity rate is important because usually, many people want a well-known board. If they see something important, and enjoy that particular activity, they may considered about it and who knows? They may ended up joining that popular board. As I see it, Xeogaming is no place where everyone say: "It is ze greatest board ever. I even have a coffee of Java Joe there, people are very polite, and they gave me a free bagel as being part of ze customer." Unless there is a reason why Xeogaming shouldn't be a well-known place, I suggest to provide something that make the other people or viewer feel more respected then other board on their way. 6.) Okay, so your point is? It is quite true that you could not realize that what this board is providing. People want a well-respected environment, with something that will keep on until they achieve their full result. Unless you are very smart or respectable person, I doubt that you know less of what we are not doing here. In fact, you may even prove that you could, probablities, give more reasons of why should people not join this board, since it made YOU look like you are harassessing me now. Nobody would like to be bitched at, and of course, also want their opinion or their view to be understood. I have a huge doubt that if you said that you fully understood what I am saying because, in my view, it looks like you want to have things your way. Not to be rude, but I think that it is time for you to be fully aware of the people's view and considers every possiblities to achieve a result where many people will be completely satifisied with BOTH your and their idea. I don't see anything that you provides much, Tamarin. Unless you have any furthering argument, I suggest that you and I should end it here, before we get into any meaning or ze trouble that we don't want. And if you refused to read all of this (unless the whole thing does not make any sense to you), should I call ze FBI or should I bring out ze french pizza and have some tea? |
| Benja Posts: 322/551 |
I will say this though, i didnt throw my hands up in the air when the battle hack was taken down, sorry syntax, love ya and all, buuuuttt that probably isnt the reason.
I know this board can post like no other, but theres gotta be a reason to do it. Like shin-ra, when they came, people posted like mad and people came together. There needs to be something to spark interest again. Plus, we could use more active people like.........dare I say.........more females, there are alot more males then females and it could help even the balance here. I say a shakeup needs to happen or else itll be doldrums from here on. |
| Astrophel Posts: 520/2724 |
It's a waste of effort, since you're already convinced long before you even post that you cannot possibly be wrong. But, I may as well...
I'm gonna do this all at once. - I'm sorry, but this made no sense. - As Shuyin said, it's worse when a lot of threads are trying to be funny. - Hm. And if the place was more active before school started - which it was - then it can be blamed on a job. Riiiiight - You make no sense. - You continue to make no sense. - And you've been bitching about a lack of a positive environment. In fact, as far as I can tell you're the ONLY one complaining about it. |
| Rauni Posts: 607/1351 |
Originally posted by Tamarin Calanis Sorry, but that doesn't seem to applies very well either. You see, half of the time over the summer vacation, barely anyone would take their opporunity because they also have some jobs and such work around themselves. They usually come on whenever they have a chance to do so. Basically, school doesn't mean much to me, even through I took Calculus (A for my progress report?) but however, most of the time, people's activity wasn't related to "school". It's simply the time where they believed they have matured and move on with whatever lesson or skill they have in mind. Some actually bother to stay but when they see this board being somewhat inactive, they are going to feel like: "Man, this board is boring now. There is nothing to do there and I just wasted my time." Which kinda proved my statements about the battle hack wrong or something. But let's not forget the randomness the previous board has before and everyone was all "hip" about it... Let not also forget how the hacking became a little issues where Xeogaming basically LOST some of it active member. Plus, the reasons why I think this board is losing some activity is mostly related to: - Lazy or not ready to work on "our project". - Lacks of humor or random funness from us. - May be busy at some point in life where they may not have enough time for this board. (School, job, life problem, etc., just because they are inactive doesn't mean it is entirely school's problem. ) - Latest problem or issues that this board has from its history. - Popularity or "Fame rate". - And most importantly, lack of movitation or positive environment from us. Hell, there are many factor to applies here, Tamarin, because other board tends to keep it activity since it is very well known or become somewhat a place where they contributate to the world. Hell, we could barely keep an update of the board unless Zabuza would tell us about the upcoming video game but that pretty much going to get him FIRED. We don't want that. ~ My two cents. |
| Astrophel Posts: 518/2724 |
All your attempted explanations, Shanan, and I think you missed the most important one - the one Shuyin came up with.
School has started. Therefore, activity has slowed greatly. It makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? |
| AlpoRaggins Posts: 254/793 |
Guess what guys!
I just got the internet in my room so I'll be more active. Oh... wait. Its AOL. ... nevermind. |
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