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| Spartan Posts: 817/1569 |
I am assholetheistic...
I can be an asshole about some religions... I just dont like it when people try to cram that shit down my throat.... You beliefs fine... Because I choose to belive in nothing thats my choice...and nothing you can do will stop it... And If I were to pray it would be to the internet... but meh... I was baptised Roman Catholic though if it maters... |
| Pockets Posts: 570/838 |
I've got a couple wiccan books and I've been playing with the idea for the last
couple days of attempting to completely merge Wicca and Druidry into something of my own. I'm not sure how realistic or possible an idea it is considering I'm still learning and don't know nearly as much as I'd like to know about either. I really need to study some more before I try incorporating the two together. |
| Belial Posts: 175/647 |
Originally posted by Pockets I agree with your explanation. It sums it up in a paragraph (if possible...  ). I wish I could join you guys for a Beltane celebration, but I don't think I could afford gas to all the way out there, lol.
I'm Wiccan. I lean towards more Nocturnal and Celtic magics. Nocturnal meaning I practice mostly at night, with nocturnal energies, i.e. the moon and stars as opposed to daylight. |
| Makura Posts: 895/1555 |
Pantheism is greatly revolved around you in relationship to the universe. It's about getting to know yourslef and where you fit in the world. Einstein was a panthiest. It's belief that the universe itself is God. I follow a alot of it's beliefs because it's easy to couple it with Buddhism. |
| Katana Posts: 965/3649 |
I'd rather not comment too much on my beliefs just yet, because I really didn't get to read through everyone's replies. But...I do ask this...what is a pantheist? I'm guessing something to deal with the world as a whole? **shrugs** I've never really heard that before now. |
| Banned Posts: 1491/-3459 |
I think I'm agnostic...  
I also think that I'm going to hell, despite how nice a person I am to most people... ... ... |
| Makura Posts: 893/1555 |
My immediate family follows strict Messianic Hebrew beliefs. I won't get into detail. I however don't really know what I believe in. I relate a great deal to buddhist teachings. I haven't learned enough about anything else to really have faith in it. |
| Pockets Posts: 569/838 |
I agree, working skyclad is a bit outside of my comfort zone too. (for those that
don't know. Skyclad = naked.) Elara, WhiteRose and Oni and I would be more than willing to celebrate ya know? It might be a bit late to try to work something out for Beltane but maybe if we can manage it we can go to a park or something and celebrate plain clothes. The intent is more important than the ceremony of the event don't you think? In my Druid researchings I have come across that same comparison that Rogue made. You can compare a lot of pagan beliefs to the Star Wars concept of the Force. It's largely talking about energy and life surrounding you, inside you and infusing the world and universe itself. The main point behind Magic, (or Magik.) is to tap into those energies and ask, not command, but ask for their help in whatever spell or rite it is that you want to perform. I THINK I got that right. What do other more experienced practicitioners think of my explanation? |
| Elara Posts: 3018/9736 |
My particular believes are rather eclectic. Overall, I consider myself Wiccan. However I also study Druidry and am a practicing Discordian as well. Pockets did a good job of explaining Druidry, and only WhiteRose can really add to it, so I will stick to the other two.
Wicca: Wicca has many different traditions such as Gardnerian, Dianic, Eclectic, etc (details here). The basic belief that all share is the importance of nature in our lives and many concepts that prevail in Eastern Religions, as well as the Three-fold Law and the Wiccan Rede. The Three-fold Law states that whatever energy you put out will return to you threefold (3x3x3, aka karma works) and the Rede basically states "and it harm none, do what thou will". Most Wiccans in the world now are one of the three groups I have mentioned above, with Eclectic being highest among the youth. I am an Eclectic if you haven't figured it out. Wiccans and Druids follow the same Wheel of the Year as far as sabbats go. We have 8 holidays, 4 minor (the Equinoxes and Solstices) and 4 major (Imbolc, Beltane, Lughnasdah/Lammas, and Samhain). There are stories behind the holidays that vary by tradition, but generally they tell the yearly cycle of the Goddess and the God. Wiccans also have smaller rituals called Esbats that are held every full moon. Some Wiccans believe in only a Great Spirit, though most believe in the Goddess and God (in some traditions only in the Goddess). Then there are those, like me, who think that there is the Great Spirit that is the energy of all the universe (much like in Hindu belief), that physically manifests when it has to as the Goddess and God (which are opposite polarities). The Goddess and God are known by various names throughout the world based on what the people praying to them need. If the God is called Ares he knows that he is being prayed to for something involving war, if he is called Posidon then it involves the sea. To summarize that, I kinda believe in both. Discordianism: Founded in the last century by two guys in a bowling ally, the believes of Discordians are basically written down in the Principia Discordia. The basics are that they follow Eris, goddess of Chaos. Emperor Norton I (The only Emeror of the USA, look it up) is a saint. The number 5 is important because it comes up everywhere, and 23 is even more important because it is a prime number composed of prime numbers that added together equal 5. They view most things as silly and take as little of life seriously as possible. They also like to have as long a Discordian name as possible... meaning lots of titles. Venomouslobster can answer any questions about this religion, since he is a Pope of Discordia. My patron deities are Eris and Loki, though I call on any deity I need in a certain situation since it is still the same Goddess or God that I am calling to, just a different facet. I don't really get to celebrate the Sabbats because I live with my parents, but I do what I can and when I do I'm usually in plain clothes since I haven't been able to get robe and I refuse to work skyclad. |
| Bitmap Posts: 2412/7838 |
Originally posted by Xeo Edit-This all Happens at CHURCH I never did either...About 3 girls around the age of 13-14 have got these huge crushes on me...its seriously annoying and kinda pisses me off at times... Like, during the drama, when I would be medatating about the performance and meanwhile praying about it...When I pray you will know, because I tend to ignore everything around me...Well, theres this one girl who will get up to your face to talk to you...and this is that type of person who doesent seem to wear any deodorant...So she stinks....And when I get away from her, she gets all pissy and is in a seriously bad mood... Another girl wont get the idea that im Fucking 18 years old...I dont want to date her anyway for the fact that she's clingy...and she wont stop talking about Naruto... And finally the last girl wont leave me alone...everywhere I go shes always behind me expecting some type of lesson from me about acting out her part...And shes the type of person on when you are praying at the alter, shes rubbing your back...Makes me feel seriously unconfortable...Especially when im laying my burdens on the alter.... Im not a huggy guy...I dont like hugs from everybody I see at church, and those people I mentioned give me a damn hug every 10 miunites...Maybe not a hug sometimes, but like a high-five or something...It seriously annoys me So im the quiet guy at my church sometimes...people ask me "Whats wrong?" all the time...and that got on my nerves, Finally I said on the youth board to quit asking me that question...."if im walking and breathing, quit asking me that stupid question...if I have a problem, Ill come to you...now bug off!" I feel you Xeo... |
| Xeoman Posts: 3587/11757 |
Born and raised Christian.
But I've never been too interested in it. Mainly because in the past, when I was in Junior High my dad forced me to go to Youth Group meetings. And we've always gone to smaller churchs, and I just simply didn't have any friends in most of the Youth Groups I've been to in my lifetime. I just ...didn't find anyone I could really relate to, and people I could really fit in with. I mean, I'm a very quiet person, but my best friend in Elementary school was a Juvenile, not saying he's bad or anything but I have never really fit in with the real religious people in my time. Then when we went to a very large Church, with at least a young adults / teens group of 50+ people, I only knew like one guy. But I couldn't stand how hypocritical people were there. They'd act all "special and holy" within the church, then outside of it ... you see them drinking, having sex, cussing, etc ... stuff that they say they don't do in church. I just hated it. There's been many times where I've told myself "My friends who don't go to church have more common sense ...". But now it's been over a year since I've been to church, because of my job. I always work when I could be going. Honestly I've been quite surprised my dad has done nothing about this, but then again ever since I've turned 17-18 I think he's realized "I'm growing up", and has given me more freedom. That's basically it. I do believe in many Christian beliefs, and think it has made me somewhat of a better person. But then again, I haven't read the bible, or anything. Either way I don't think I'll ever have much interest in expanding my religious beliefs, at least at this point in my life. I guess I just have more of a laid back philosophical mindset or something, but yeah. |
| The Accidental Protege Posts: 1346/2641 |
Neo-Pagan. Wiccan, to be exact. I like it; it's a peaceful religion that seems to fit my philosphy and mindset. However, I don't practice rites and spells as often as I'd like to, and I feel a tad guilty about it
Elara and True can add more to this. |
| Lord Vulkas Mormonus Posts: 898/4541 |
I have already explained it several times on this board, why bother to keep repeating myself? |
| geeogree Posts: 164/246 |
I'm a Mormon so I believe what Vulkar described (more or less) although I think his job of explaining was poor at best and doesn't make as much sense as I would like...
but I'm too lazy to add or correct, so tough on me I guess 
but yeah, I try to not let the so called restrictions of organized religion stop me from believing in any number of "spiritual" possiblities... there is truth in every religion.... |
| Jin Posts: 461/546 |
I'm just simply a pantheist.. |
| Cairoi Posts: 1266/3807 |
O.<
I've been meaning to research Eastern Religon, dontcha know. Good to see someone else thought my thoughts. |
| Rogue Posts: 1503/11918 |
Originally posted by Cairoi Your ideas sound very Eastern, namely Hindu. Hindus believe that all souls are connected within the Brahman (the world soul) and the Atman (inner essence). When one person rises, all rise. It also fits with Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism where there is no concern for the creation of the universe, there is no "God," but there is an all-encompassing energy which flows through all people and things. This energy is what is divine. Think of the Tao or chi like the Star Wars equivilent, the Force. Well, this is just a half-assed description, it goes much deeper, of course. Not meaning to deter from your ideas of the universe, but just telling you what it sounded like to me. |
| Cairoi Posts: 1263/3807 |
I'm nothing. I'm not agnostic, atheist, or a Christian, Judaist, Buddhist, Mormon, Taoist, or Discordian.
I've got my own idea on gods, afterlife, life itself, but trust me. They are fluid. I always follow instinct, because I believe it is our true soul. It's one of the few things good parenting can't change, or bad parenting destroy. It's just that gut feeling without provocation that tells you to do it. Everyone gets different instinct, and if you follow that, you are your true self. Anyway, in my opinion, God didn't make creation, he is creation. God is the "breath of life", to will to live. It's what makes us human. Animals have it, too. I mean, we have souls. And they're all connected. You can often feel how someone is feeling even if they don't show any outward signs of it. God is the total being of all our souls together, the ultimate soul of sorts. Anyway, in case I'm wrong on all this, which I would not be suprised about, I do what I can to lead a morally upstanding life, so no matter which religon is right, at least I'm not going to hell. |
| Shuyin Posts: 1035/1858 |
Just let this be known
I was born and raised Catholic. However I'm very much agnostic (if that even makes sense) now. I used to be a very close minded, God obsessing, athiest hating, altar boy. Now i'm quite the opposite. |
| 01001000 Posts: 718/944 |
Born and Raised Protestant Christian
I am currently however agnostic with my own theories. |
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