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| Xeogaming Forums - General Chat - The Gap and Levi Strauss denim a danger to children in Africa |
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Rogue If you're reading this... You are the Resistance         Since: 08-17-04 Since last post: 633 days Last activity: 442 days |
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| I saw this report on this denim factory that produces the fabric for Gap and Levi's jeans and how it was polluting and dumping in Lesotho (country within South Africa).
The blue dye for the denim is flooding the river which the villagers use for food and bathing, and they're also dumping denim scraps and such which children are digging through for scraps they can sell for cooking fuel. Problem is the children are getting cut by razors and needles and being exposed to harmful chemicals while they do all this. An article on it can be found here, as news of this broke this past weekend. What are your thoughts? Do you feel Gap and Levi Strauss have a social responsibility to fix this situation? I mean, Gap prides itself on selling T-shirts supposedly raising money for AIDS awareness groups and getting celebrities to wear them, why not go the extra mile and pick up the mess the fabric that goes into their jeans is causing? |
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Cteno Super Shotgun Moderator Since: 01-11-05 Since last post: 91 days Last activity: 89 days |
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| Whatever America doesn't know, doesn't hurt large companies. I'm sure now that we all know about it, they'll act like they had no idea and fix this one instance. I'm sure it'll be happening somewhere else for years still. | |||
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Rogue If you're reading this... You are the Resistance Since: 08-17-04 Since last post: 633 days Last activity: 442 days |
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| I do agree that there's a lot of corruption out there that we're just not seeing.
I wonder why their denim isn't made in the U.S. Since visuals often help in cases like these: The China Post is reporting that Nien Hsing, the Taiwainese firm that runs this factory, denies the things shown in the video are happening. The only place I could see it I suppose, is where they're saying they don't have children working in their factory for 10 hours a day. No, the article identified those as children digging through the dump for scraps that they can sell. EDIT: Had to fix the link. (Last edited by Rogue on 08-07-09 01:51 PM) |
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable  Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 99 days Last activity: 99 days |
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| I think that they should be obligated to fix the error and pay the people affected for fucking up their kids and their water supply.
But yeah... why isn't the denim made here? |
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Rogue If you're reading this... You are the Resistance Since: 08-17-04 Since last post: 633 days Last activity: 442 days |
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| It's kinda funny in a sad way. Gap is debuting their "new denim line" with this throwback advertisement to 1969, when the company was founded in San Francisco.
Denim has always had this image of being the all-American fabric, and their ads for this '69 throwback seem meant to make you think about their roots, their humble beginnings, when America was carving out a new identity, and most importantly not about what's going on across the pond. Or maybe I'm just reading into it. |
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Cyro Xero Rune Mage  Rave Atom  Since: 02-23-05 From: Minnesota!! Since last post: 49 days Last activity: 49 days |
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| They have their company set up in another country for the same reason other corporations have theirs in different places: cheap labor. You only have to pay the employees of another country a fraction of what is required by law in the states. Would you want to pay your people $7.00 or $4.00? Do the math. But scraps/pollution thing is something new to hear about, but not surprising. Companies will try to get a way with shit like that until they're found out. | |||
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Rogue If you're reading this... You are the Resistance Since: 08-17-04 Since last post: 633 days Last activity: 442 days |
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| No, I get it. Why pay one man $20 to landscape your yard when you can pay an illegal or a neighborhood kid $5?
What's more Gap and Levi's are falling on saying, "Well, at least we're providing jobs for people in a third world country." It's a dilemma above all things. Make it here and spend more doing so, probably getting the unions involved, but you're supplying Americans with jobs. OR make it elsewhere thereby subsidizing another country, bypassing many restrictions and regulations one would have to go through here, and in so doing cut the amount spent on the overhead, increasing one's profits. (Last edited by Rogue on 08-11-09 11:58 AM) |
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