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Rogue
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Posted on 03-20-11 08:41 PM Link | Quote
Turning away for a second from Japan and its misfortunes, remember the troubles in North Africa?

Yeah, it's gotten to the point that France made the first move.

FRANCE.

That's really saying something.

But, ladies and gentlemen, we are at war it seems. And Gadhafi's pledging it will be a long one.




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Posted on 03-20-11 09:41 PM Link | Quote
Just wonderful... Out of the frying pan and into a boiling pit of lava...
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Posted on 03-21-11 12:21 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, but if ever there was a war that needed fighting, this is it.

... since it is multiple countries involved, does this make it WWIII or does Libya need allies as well?
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Posted on 03-21-11 01:43 PM Link | Quote
From what I have heard we are bombing Libya and not sending any foot troops in.
Rogue
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Posted on 03-21-11 03:30 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sorcha Rohan
From what I have heard we are bombing Libya and not sending any foot troops in.

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

We're "supporting" England and France, who are the primary bombers in this.
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Posted on 03-21-11 08:24 PM Link | Quote
So are any of the Arab countries getting involved like they had originally said? I know that Gadhafi (or Gaddafi, keep seeing both) is not popular with them either.
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Posted on 03-22-11 02:37 AM Link | Quote
A bunch of countries have backed out or are about to so here is a list and what they were going to give the coalition.
BACKED OUT:
Norway (planes)
UAE United Arab Emirates (planes)

ABOUT TO:
Italy (base usage)
Yemen (planes)

If I was Gadhafi I would shot down every dang plane that passed over my country and state that you have no business telling me how I treat the "rebels" within my country and if you are going to enforce this no fly zone over my country then lets go to war. I would also pull out of the UN because if I remember my history class right the UN by charter they can not enforce a No fly zone or impose sanctions on a country that is not a member.


My point for the previous comment is that because the US is stretched thin already is that he would probably win the war.
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Posted on 03-22-11 01:00 PM Link | Quote
o.O this is all kinda new to me. dont really have time to look up what this is about, someone mind giving me a lowdown as to wtf this war with Libra is about, and what caused it?
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Posted on 03-22-11 04:20 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Lagann
o.O this is all kinda new to me. dont really have time to look up what this is about, someone mind giving me a lowdown as to wtf this war with Libra is about, and what caused it?


Here you go

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Posted on 03-23-11 01:36 PM Link | Quote
o.O That website is confusing as shit, bud.
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Posted on 03-23-11 04:47 PM Link | Quote
What is confusing about it?
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Posted on 03-23-11 05:00 PM Link | Quote
Long story short, Libya's dictator started slaughtering his own people for daring to protest his regime like what has been happening in other countries. Libyans asked for help, the UN declared a No Fly Zone to keep Gadhafi from bringing in mercenaries to slaughter millions... and the Libyan government declared a "cease fire" to try and dissuade them from enforcing it... then immediately broke the cease fire. I don't know if they violated the NFZ, but it would not surprise me. So the UN decided to take action, apparently lead by the French.
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Posted on 03-24-11 11:59 AM Link | Quote
Ah, so they decided to act like a tyrant, and the proceeded to open fire on people from other nations. Got it.
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Posted on 03-24-11 01:01 PM Link | Quote
Not exactly, no.
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Posted on 03-24-11 03:58 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Elara
Long story short, Libya's dictator started slaughtering his own people for daring to protest his regime like what has been happening in other countries.


That tells me Tyrant.

Originally posted by Elara
the Libyan government declared a "cease fire" to try and dissuade them from enforcing it... then immediately broke the cease fire.


This tells me someone died that shouldn't have.

Anyway, backing out of this convo before my brain melts. Got too much stuff to do then to look into this event as well.
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Posted on 03-24-11 09:48 PM Link | Quote
Ah... I thought you called the UN a tyrant and that confused me. But yeah, power-mad tyrant. It is really a full scale civil war over there.
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Posted on 03-27-11 02:06 AM Link | Quote
Just heard an excuse to buy a car from Kia because of the "War with Libya will cause gas prices to g up to $5.00 a gallon"!

Never change America!


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Posted on 03-27-11 11:05 AM Link | Quote
Ugh... Kia. I keep thinking of that stupid-ass commercial with the rapping hamsters. Gas prices shouldn't go up any more than they were already... seeing as the country had devolved into civil war before the UN went in.
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Posted on 03-28-11 07:44 PM Link | Quote
Obama is making a speech right now saying that NATO's taking over will significantly reduce the financial effect on Americans.

YouTube live feed: http://www.youtube.com/citizentube?feature=ticker

UPDATE: Obama's addressing international leaders' concern of "intervening" in Libya when other people could use or more (or that we should just mind our own business) saying that we should never brush aside taking responsibility as a leader because it would be a betrayal of who we are.

According to him, the U.S.' main point in being there is to protect the Libyan people and enforce the no-fly zone.

UPDATE: Obama's talking about how America doesn't need another Iraq, a country for which he says we are hopeful, since it's cost us years, lives, and $3 trillion.


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Posted on 03-29-11 01:17 AM Link | Quote
I found the speech to be very clear in laying out the reasons for our actions, and I agree with them. I also found the commentary on MSNBC afterwards to be amusing as they talked about how some Republicans went from criticizing Obama for inaction and demanding that he do something to condemning him for doing exactly what they had demanded.
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