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Astrophel Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything; Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering          Since: 10-03-04 From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta Since last post: 2492 days Last activity: 1343 days |
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You can fight a transformed Nightmare, if you take the correct path in Tales of Souls and don't lose any matches until after you beat the O RLY owl... 
Desroth: Oh, yes, the AI acts very human... if humans are stupid enough to repeatedly be destroyed by Kilik's 4A+B,B,B and yet not falling for mixups that would even trick a highly skilled human. *Tamarin Calanis watches everyone's sarcasm detector overload after that paragraph. |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical  Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3977 days Last activity: 3883 days |
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| Its nearly impossible to land a throw on the AI on any of the Harder challenges.. The AI can read your button presses and act accordingly, just like a real human. | |||
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Astrophel Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything; Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering Since: 10-03-04 From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta Since last post: 2492 days Last activity: 1343 days |
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| Yeah, that too. Every human can throw off twenty five grabs (of different types) in a row. Yep. | |||
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Shuyin Baron of Radical Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3977 days Last activity: 3883 days |
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| There are no broken characters either. Setsuka's glitch throw is completely legit.
In SC2 fast characters dominated.......so in SC3 they nerf the slow characters and make the faster characters more powerful. Don't worry, their beta testing is quality. Okay i'm done with the sarcasm now.  |
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Jedi Master Desroth Priest  Since: 08-24-04 From: Macomb Since last post: 5282 days Last activity: 4722 days |
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| Hey now, you would be surprised what hard core players can really do. Aside from what you all say about the AI being cheap, you have to remeber that it is the AI. It doesnt have a controller, and has all the move memorized that they can use. The higher you go, the faster the ai reads your button presses and responds.
Now about the slower characters. Nightmare is slow, but his slash can still knock you flying. And if they made the faster characters stronger, why is Talim the only fast character who posses a problem? Thinking about this, I guess the players skill and competency would come into play with how hard they find the AI. OLCADIAN (I know he looks like that O RLY owl, but that isnt funny in my book) is a sweet character. Once you get his Soul Edge/Caliber weapon, he gains acces to the soul edge and caliber weapons of the others. Oh, and I find it funny... Siegfried and Nightmare's swords are Soul Caliber and Soul Edge. Zasalamel absorbs both swords, and launches out Soul Edge or Soul Caliber. The problem is that Soul Edge comes out as Soul Edge, but Soul Caliber comes out as a small dual blade sword.... Problem with that, lol. Cant believe they didnt see that one when Zas launches one out of himself. And something a friend pointed out... The Soul Caliber games are in the same universe as another Soul game. I cant remeber what it was called, but the storys and history are the same. |
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Astrophel Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything; Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering Since: 10-03-04 From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta Since last post: 2492 days Last activity: 1343 days |
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| do what? The Soul Calibur that comes out is the same as the Soul Calibur in SC2. Now, if they had changed it for that one, I wouldn't know...
and the other Soul game is probably Soul Edge or Soul Blade - same game, two different names. (Last edited by Tamarin Calanis on 11-30-05 01:00 AM) |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3977 days Last activity: 3883 days |
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| He spits out Soul Calibur (the sword) when you fight him with Kilik. Kilik then picks it up and the fight begins... and he fights with his Soul Calibur Bo.
Doesn't really make sense. |
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Astrophel Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything; Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering Since: 10-03-04 From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta Since last post: 2492 days Last activity: 1343 days |
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| THAT doesn't make sense, but I dunno what the fuck Desroth's talking about.
And I don't know what the hell he's on, Talim's not nearly as bad as (even faster when used by AI) Setsuka.  (Last edited by Tamarin Calanis on 11-30-05 03:47 AM) |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3977 days Last activity: 3883 days |
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| Actually I kind of understand now. He thinks Siegfried uses the true Soul Calibur. He doesn't, Xianghua (I think I just butchered her name) does. | |||
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Jedi Master Desroth Priest Since: 08-24-04 From: Macomb Since last post: 5282 days Last activity: 4722 days |
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| Listen... Soul Edge and Soul Caliber (the dark and good swords) are fused together. This was because Siegfried shoved his SOUL CALIBER into the Soul Edge to rid the world of its power. When Zasalamel shows up to get the 2 swords, he absorbs both of them. THEN He spits out Soul Edge or Soul Caliber. Now tell me, how come SOUL EDGE come out as SOUL EDGE, but SOUL CALIBER comes out as a wussy ass sword (and not Siegfrieds Soul Edge). IT MAKES NO SENSE!!! ZOMG AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Oh, and if you did not realize, Soul Edge and Soul Caliber take on the weapon type each character uses. That is why Kilik picks up Soul Caliber and gets a rod, and also why Astraoth picks up Soul Edge and gets a giant Axe (Or Tira getting her ring). There is no true form to either sword, they take the form of whoever posses them (and the weapon type they use). On another note, could you put up a detailed path on how to face the transformed Nightmare by any chance? |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3977 days Last activity: 3883 days |
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Originally posted by Jedi Master Desroth In Soul Calibur II, Xianghua had the true Soul Calibur. It's shown on the cover. So what Abyss spits out is her Soul Calibur/the real Soul Calibur. I realized this. But it still is funny to see them pick up the sword then all of a sudden fight with a different weapon without explanation. Every character as a different path to Night Terror. Go to Gamefaqs.com for which choices to take. Good luck though. You can't lose one match. (Except the Bonus ones.) |
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Rauni Since: 08-14-04 Since last post: 1558 days Last activity: 1558 days |
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Originally posted by Hephaistion Hate to break it, but there is two (true) Soul Calibur(s). One of them is Siegfried's Soul Calibur which it can be seen when the Soul Edge have the Soul Calibur struck upon in the background where you met either two (and of course, one where you can see that after you finished the game). And there is one where Abyss shoot out Xianghua's Soul Calibur. Nightmare have the real Soul Edge. Siegfried and Xianghua also have the "real" Souls Calibur since 1.) Xianghua's Soul Calibur have its appear after it spitted out from Abyss. and 2.) Siegfried's Soul Calibur in the background where you can commonly see it during the sequence AND after you beat the game's picture (where they tell you much money you got.) Originally posted by Tamarin Calanis Soul Edge. I got the game. Accurately, it wouldn't be the "same" game since the storyline is altered just by a little bit. There is no Soul Calibur in Soul Edge.  And Siegfried killed his father in this one, I believed. |
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Jedi Master Desroth Priest Since: 08-24-04 From: Macomb Since last post: 5282 days Last activity: 4722 days |
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| Hmmm... I always thought whoever won the tournament got Soul Caliber , so how can anyone say they own the REAL caliber?As I remeber, Inferno in 2 has the Caliber weapon, and you have to beat him to take the weapon.
But you know the jackpot of weapon types? The souviner weapons XD, lol. They suck, but you will be sweet wielding em (until you get killed by your enemy who has a Caliber or Edge weapon, or any other weapon for that matter) Oh, and dont play Lizardman unless your really good... His range sucks, and overall he isnt a very well thought out character.. |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3977 days Last activity: 3883 days |
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| Shanan, looks like you're in need of a Soul Calibur/Edge history lesson. These are excerpts from the Story Faq on Gamefaqs:
End of Soul Calibur I:When Xianghua fought Inferno in the end of Soul Calibur 1, Krita-Yuga became Soul Calibur. Soul Calibur is the sword destined to destroy evil. It is some what of an evil twin to Soul Edge. It has many of the same properties, such as the fact that it changes shape depending on who holds it, but it doesn't control it's user, and it is obviously good. End of Soul Calibur II:Raphael makes it to Nightmare in Ostrheinsburg Chapel, but he gets his ass handed to him. As Nightmare is standing over him, ready to finish him off, Siegfried decides that he's had enough. A nasty fight is taking place in Nightmare's mind. This buy's Raphael enough time to gather enough strength to attack and damage Soul Edge. This is enough for Siegfried to regain his mind. He casts off his evil armour. Soul Calibur appears. Siegfried, sensing the energy from this new sword, thrusts it into Soul Edge. This, however, isn't enough to destory it. Only weaken it, and the swords merge together. Siegfried takes them both, with the intention of neutralizing and destroying Soul Edge. Basically its the same sword. It just morphed to Siegfried's version when he grabbed it, because it changes to the characters weapon. However its true form is apparent when Abyss spits it out. Regardless of the good guy you face him with, he always spits out Xianghua's version. |
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Rauni Since: 08-14-04 Since last post: 1558 days Last activity: 1558 days |
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Originally posted by Hephaistion Aren't you just proving my point? All YOU said is "he always spits out Xianghua's version." and proved nothing of which version Soul Calibur (Siegfried's) strucks on Soul Edge just before Z-man was affected by it. In this case, not only you are half-right, but wrong on "true form". There are basically "two" of them. One where you can see Soul Calibur just got slammed right into Soul Edge and one where you can see Abyss spits out. And not forget... The screen where you get the gold show Siegfried's Soul Calibur that is struck with Soul Edge is also there. Now, how do you know if Xianghua's have the real Soul Calibur but not Siegfried? Don't forget, Siegfried hold the Soul Calibur that struck Soul Edge and somehow Z-man got affect, and spits out Xianghua's version (weaker version?) . Beside, you need to take a close look on Soul Calibur which they showed that sequence. Not only there are two of them, but you need to think deeper. Xianghua was defending people with HER sword, and at the same time when Siegfried broke free, Soul Calibur came to HIM and he SLAMMED it into Soul Edge. This happened TWICE. Therefore, Siegfried's Soul Calibur STILL COUNT (as a real weapon) because of the sequence where either Nightmare win or Siegfried win, you can see the background where Siegfried's Soul Calibur is stuck on Nightmare's Soul Edge. Don't even complain on how Abyss always spit out Xianghua's weapon just because they say so. The facts you need to applies every logical to it, including EVERYTHING you see that are important. In this case, you FAILED to see the background, where Siegfried's REAL Soul Calibur IS STUCK on Soul Edge. I don't gave a DAMN if he have use Xianghua's version, he already had one before and struck it! So there are TWO Soul Caliburs. Siegfried's was a REAL weapon, just before Xianghua's have her WEAKER version. |
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Astrophel Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything; Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering Since: 10-03-04 From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta Since last post: 2492 days Last activity: 1343 days |
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| Shanan, no. Seriously, no. There's only one Soul Calibur, it defaults to the one Xianghua uses, that's it, end of story (you can also see this in the bit of it sticking out of Soul Edge, as well as past SC games). Siegfried at the start of SC3 had it and Soul Edge (which it was stuck into), and it was presumably brought to the Lost Cathedral. Xianghua did not have it at all until possibly the battle with Abyss - IF she fought Abyss at all, we do not know if that will be canon or not (we dunno what storyline Namco will go with, after all).
So, quick rundown. * One Soul Calibur * It has consistently defaulted to the one Xianghua uses, therefore that is obviously at the very least its default form. * Xianghua does not currently have it, Siegfried does. * Again, only one Soul Calibur. |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3977 days Last activity: 3883 days |
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| Shanan your logic doesn't make sense. You're being stubborn and can't except that you're wrong.
Moving on: Who does everyone like using? I usually pick random because i'm pretty decent with everybody. My best characters would probably be : Seung Mina, Cervantes, Taki, and Ivy. |
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Astrophel Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything; Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering Since: 10-03-04 From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta Since last post: 2492 days Last activity: 1343 days |
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| As in SC2, Raphael and Kilik. I'm also not bad with Mitsurugi, Seung Mina, and Cassandra. Also like SC2.
I'm stubborn, I'll stick to the characters I like no matter how much they change. |
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kyle s kenedy Armorknight  Since: 01-14-06 From: petaluma california Since last post: 6418 days Last activity: 6257 days |
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| talim is my best but i also like cassandra taki and the create a character pirate with the iron sword is my second | |||
Darkness Hoarder Ready to be challenged in sim battles Since: 10-07-04 From: Petaluma,CA Since last post: 6643 days Last activity: 6120 days |
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| Siegfried is my best now because they messed up talim for me...I ussed to know all her moves but now it's to hard to get up close with her. (But I do still kick major ass with her just not as much.) |
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