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Rogue If you're reading this... You are the Resistance         Since: 08-17-04 Since last post: 635 days Last activity: 444 days |
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| So what do you guys think about this debate going on? For those who haven't heard, the FBI is trying to access the data on the iPhone belonging to the husband in the couple that shot up the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, CA. If the FBI attempts to guess the passcode and gets it wrong 10 consecutive times, the data on the phone completely erases. Apple refuses to do it because they say it will render all iPhones vulnerable to hackers, the government, and many others. |
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Cteno Super Shotgun Moderator Since: 01-11-05 Since last post: 94 days Last activity: 91 days |
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| The conspiracy theorists believe that there's a huge web of secrets regarding 9/11, yet the government can't even unlock an iPhone. I'm pretty sure that invalidates each and every one of them. | |||
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Astrophel Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything; Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering  Since: 10-03-04 From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta Since last post: 2482 days Last activity: 1332 days |
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| Apple is right. There's no such thing as a government-only backdoor. | |||
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Cammygirl192 Banned Since: 08-15-15 From: England Since last post: 1386 days Last activity: 1386 days |
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Originally posted by Cteno Oh I know a conspiracy theorist myself he's such a pain in the arse and he was messaging us to death on facebook about some alter crap because I sent him a prank email. Still on topic this whole thing makes me want to support Apple and yeah there can't be just one backdoor there needs to be more for it to properly work. I hope they don't implement it I'm not even updating to 9.3 because I want to get the jailbreak if one is released. |
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Lord Vulkas Mormonus Vile High Xeodent of Xeomerica.  Since: 10-29-04 From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way Since last post: 96 days Last activity: 96 days |
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| Apple seems to be trying to say that the FBI wants a backdoor into all iPhones, while the FBI is saying, no they don't, they only want the auto-wipe function in this one phone to be eliminated so that they can guess the password.
If Apple's claim is right, they shouldn't do it, I say, but if the FBI's claim is right, then Apple should help them out. Either way, the fact that this issue went so far as to be argued in the press, instead of being handled privately and quickly, is really ridiculous. |
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Rogue If you're reading this... You are the Resistance Since: 08-17-04 Since last post: 635 days Last activity: 444 days |
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| Well, the FBI got the phone unlocked without Apple's help. Apple doesn't have to write code and argue that their first amendment rights are being violated (code is considered a form of speech), and the government gets to go through a terrorist's contacts and see if they can account for that missing 18 minutes. It's win-win.
The way this all ended is hilarious. Turns out iPhones are vulnerable anyway. |
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Xeoman Ball and Chain Trooper Administrator  Since: 08-14-04 From: 255 Since last post: 90 days Last activity: 78 days |
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| Now I want to know if they find anything. | |||
Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable  Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 102 days Last activity: 102 days |
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| I am glad that they got it open without Apple's help... I totally agreed with Apple's stance on the issue. You can't just write code that unlocks only one phone. Their devices are not made that way... they are not unique little snowflakes. What the FBI wanted was essentially a skeleton key that could have been used on every Apple device in the world (because all Apple devices run off iOS). | |||
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Lord Vulkas Mormonus Vile High Xeodent of Xeomerica. Since: 10-29-04 From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way Since last post: 96 days Last activity: 96 days |
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| What really annoyed me here was that this was turned into a republicans vs democrats issue, just like the police shootings. Are we really all so polarized that we only side with issues based on our political party?
Meh. Either way though, I'm not surprised in the least that the FBI found a way in anyway. Nothing is 100% secure. I really don't mind them having a way to hack it, as long as they can only do it with the warrant. I don't want them going crazy like the NSA was. |
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 102 days Last activity: 102 days |
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| Yeah... the whole thing was kinda nutball. Civil discourse is dying and it makes me want to cry. | |||
Yushe Since: 03-29-16 Since last post: 3142 days Last activity: 2925 days |
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| https://finance.yahoo.com/news/turns-nothing-substantial-san-bernardino-143331633.html | |||
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Xeoman Ball and Chain Trooper Administrator Since: 08-14-04 From: 255 Since last post: 90 days Last activity: 78 days |
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Originally posted by Yushe *face palm* |
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Rogue If you're reading this... You are the Resistance Since: 08-17-04 Since last post: 635 days Last activity: 444 days |
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| The FBI hasn't released how much they spent to get that third party to hack for them, but their director has sort of let on that he's ashamed that the amount exceeds what he'll be paid for next seven years. | |||
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Xeoman Ball and Chain Trooper Administrator Since: 08-14-04 From: 255 Since last post: 90 days Last activity: 78 days |
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I guess that's what they get for being silly. Jeeze.  |
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