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| Xeogaming Forums - Gaming Discussion - Metal Gear Solid 4 (spoilers galore) |
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Ryan Ptooie Is back!           Since: 10-01-04 From: Stafford, UK Since last post: 4644 days Last activity: 4604 days |
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I'm gonna have to make a deal with my mother... I NEED a PS3 before this game comes out, and the only way I can see it happening is if I miss out on pocket money for a few weeks and put it towards my birthday present. I do NOT want to have to go round my friend's house and half play it with him (Which is what I did with Mass Effect and lost half of the fun  ) |
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Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt  Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4556 days Last activity: 4550 days |
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| Yeah, Im glad I worked my ass off for mine.
But anyways, The Demo that was confirmed is going to be the same Demo that was played at the Las Vegas gameshow a few months back. Which means according to the reviews from readers, they were glad this game was Delayed, and playing the demo itself was a fun experience. BTW, Here it is. In English! Cant Barely hear anything. But if you click on the video, you get to see more. |
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Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4556 days Last activity: 4550 days |
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So I keep fucking double posting in this thread to bring up information. But its time for...SPECULATION!?
 Ending to MGS2 pic 1
 Ending to MGS2 pic 2
 Ending to MGS2 Final Pic
Olga's Child is a...Boy? Olga's child is a girl right? According to the Trailers we have seen? Well, according to MGS2, its a boy. Could it be a mistake within the script? Ill assume its either that, or maybe the "Sunny" we have seen in the MGS4 clips isnt actually Olga's child to begin with. It could be, im guessing, another "Tool" for the patriots. I WANT TO DEBATE ABOUT THIS! (Last edited by Nagis on 01-27-08 03:30 PM) |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical  Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3964 days Last activity: 3870 days |
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| DEBATE ON
Did Snake know the sex of the child when he said that? He could have just used the pronouns 'he' and 'him' because he automatically assumed it was a male. |
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Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4556 days Last activity: 4550 days |
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| Could be, but that brings me to yet another point.
SPOILERS are located in this post. Spoiler:
In Metal Gear Portable Ops, when Snake talks to Gene before metal gear is activated, Gene tells snake. "Jack, you need a purpose in life". Jack? Isnt his name John? The end of the mission explains that its all a setup by the Patriots, or the chief "Mr. Director". Meaning that Big Boss' name was never John. It was Jack. But why was Gene, the leader of Inner Heaven, called Snake Jack? Thats what puzzles me, but I think I know why. We'll have to see on MGPO2 and MGS4 for the real answers, but I can only assume. At the final boss fight between Raiden and Solidus, You receive a codec call from the Patriots. Mainly naming that Raiden is just a weapon, his name is Jack too after all, however, the simularities between the name Jack, and Big Boss' name Jack all come from the same setup that took place between the Big Shell and Metal Gear PO, "Jack" is the setup name, as was the rest of the mission lead in the betrayal of The Boss, as well as Snake's turn to Outer Heaven. His Motivation. Point being, Its absolutely true that no one truely knows what Gender Olga's child may be, but Snake and Otacon already knew the Location of the Patriots, Raiden was the Test Subject, and used Olga's child as a medium, I would like to think of it as a "Stress high", under stress, Raiden knew that if he would die, Olga's child would die as well. But under the eye of the Patriots, anything could happen. And from the story setup, it seems they are always 4 steps ahead of everyone. However, the GW virus, also the list of names of the Patriots, also leads to the fact that the Simulation of the Metal Gear Test Data, would also, I assume, would have the Child's Gender. So who has the Data? Snake and Otacon. However Ocelot has the Information leading to Metal Gear RAY And arsenal Gear. But then again you have to think. Snake and Olga were partners at the time Raiden was holding hands with Otacon's sister. "Once a month the Patriots would send me a picture of my child". Wouldent you think Olga would have told Snake the Gender of her child? If she never did, he would not have labeled a gender...I think, near the end of MGS2. Somehow, I believe there is a Gap between the story of the Female Sunny, or its just the Patriots messing around on the battlefield. No one really knows. But once again, its all puppet work. And I could be wrong with my judgement, hell I might not even make any sence due to the fact that im Tierd, but just looking at the fact that puppeteers are controlling the entire scenerio, maybe Snake at first knew Olga's child was a male at the time. But deep down inside, I think that its just the Patriots "Tool" of manipulation. Thats my guess, just like yours Shuyin I suppose. (Last edited by Nagis on 01-27-08 10:48 PM) |
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Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4556 days Last activity: 4550 days |
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| Oh yeah, and here is the Demo. COMING SOON TO A PS3 NEAR YOU (Next week)
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Genome Swordfighter Since: 04-24-07 From: Canada Since last post: 5915 days Last activity: 5933 days |
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Originally posted by Nagis Oh god I love it, but this guy being a piss-poor MGS gamer isn't helping!  3 |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3964 days Last activity: 3870 days |
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| Everywhere I read says that there won't be a demo next week..... | |||
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Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4556 days Last activity: 4550 days |
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| That was just a rumor, which im seriously hoping for it.
Konami needs to get their balls in check and tell us the release date for this. |
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Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4556 days Last activity: 4550 days |
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Long time no see.
Yeah, I know, I suck. I get to play Metal Gear Solid 4 Online before 80% of the world's population can. I know...I know... and my final Gift to you all... Part 2 Part 3 There, now you just saw the DVD. But im gonna be in the Beta, if you folks are nice, I might do a commentary on it... (Last edited by Nagis on 04-07-08 12:42 PM) |
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Kyoku kun Phan Phan Where in the world in Aurora the Explora? Currently California!  Since: 06-19-06 From: Northern California Since last post: 4769 days Last activity: 4396 days |
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Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4556 days Last activity: 4550 days |
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| Preorder MGS4. (Well, by now the DVD's are sold out I bet.)
But inside is your "Golden Ticket" to get in. Downloads start April 15th, and the Beta Starts on the 17th, it ends May 5th. |
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Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4556 days Last activity: 4550 days |
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| Well guys, it is only a month left before the title is released. But there is one last thing I want to show you.
This kinda cought me by surprise, but I saw This when I went to go see Ironman. They actually got the guy who does Hollywood movies to make a *SPOILER ALERT KINDA* trailer for the most anticipated game for the Playstation. ......It....made me cry. For those of you who doubt the power of Metal Gear Solid...prepare to be proven wrong. |
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Xeoman Ball and Chain Trooper Administrator  Since: 08-14-04 From: 255 Since last post: 88 days Last activity: 76 days |
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| Bunch of trailers. Intro movie.
GIVE ME A MOTHER FUCKING PS3 NOW!!! *cough* Ahem, pardon me. 
This is probably it folks, game of the year ... (Last edited by -X on 05-13-08 06:57 AM) |
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Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4556 days Last activity: 4550 days |
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| You have 29 more days Xeo. Start saving.
Honestly, I will be able to wait that long, hell, I already waited long enough, 29 days is going to fly by quick. Especially with work. Oh yeah, Metal Gear Online is ok, Its not the best thing in the world, but it certainly is something. It makes the Metal Gear Experience totally replayable. Graphics were outstanding btw, and the controls took a little getting used to. Just dont expect thinking your skills on Metal Gear Online is going to carry over to this version. every thing was revamped and more comfortable. |
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Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4556 days Last activity: 4550 days |
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| Yay, horray for a strategy guide!
Well some of you wont even understand, even if I told you. So this post has a HUGE SPOILER ALERT. Last Warning. Font will be in White, if you dont have a PS3, or dont feel like playing it, or will never play it. Take a read, but if you are a Hard Core like me, You have been warned. FINAL WARNING. READING THIS POST WILL HAVE SPOILERS, AND I HAVE SEEN PICS. Spoiler:
-Big Boss makes a return, I do not know how, but somehow he does. - Roy Cambell is one of the patriots. - Metal Gear REX and RAY are both bosses -Mantis has taken control of the puppet beauty. I forget her name, but his soul still lives. - Snake Dies of Old Age unfortunately. - Big Boss dies of FOXDIE, and is not a boss in the game. - Colonel Beauty, which is the leader of the Beauty and the Beast, is somehow connected with Snake. - Solidus Snake makes a return. - Otacon killes Roy Cambell. - Liquid never has possessed Ocelot's arm, its only an act. Just how Liquid voiced over Master Miller in MGS1 - Naomi and Vamp are only kept alive by Nanomachines. They die by the Patriots shutting their nanomachines down. Surprisingly, they have been dead for a long time. - Otacon dies. I forgot how. icon_sad.gif - Raiden is only made of skin, a Brain, and a Spine. The rest is Android parts. He sold his body to the patriots. End Spoilers. Mind, meet blown. Mind you, I do not know how most of the spoilers fit, but I shall find out in 5 days |
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天国JOE ���A�ǂ��ɂȂ�̂���낤�H Since: 09-02-04 From: Destroy Tower Since last post: 4025 days Last activity: 3390 days |
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Originally posted by Nagis 
I want a PS3 so bad now, but I can't get one. Argh, it looks amazing. Even with a lack of color! |
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Katana Dark Wizard \"She said tonight...come on come on collide...see what I fire feels like..I bet its just like heaven.\"  Since: 08-15-04 From: Philadelphia, P.A. Since last post: 1554 days Last activity: 1372 days |
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Well...when y'all do get a PS3, let me know! I has ethernet cable now. I just gotta wait until my room is finished to hook it up.  Yay online play! Ya'll can really see how badly I suck at video games ('cept Guitar Hero...I'm pretty gay with that one)
Btw...my store is doing a midnight release! Yay! And I can't work it.  I have to open the next morning. Bastards. |
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Bitmap #1 Enhancement Shaman US Ravenholdt Since: 09-05-04 From: His Laughin' Place Since last post: 4556 days Last activity: 4550 days |
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| Lack of color? Dude, I played the Online Beta, and it looked excellent. But the BD version is going to be 50 FPS, and will look alot better, I can not fathom how this game is going to be.
Plus I am sitting here looking at pictures, and wow. I am about to blow up some serious shit for you guys. Prepare yourself once again. This totally skull fucked me. Spoiler: Big Boss is alive, and we all know that. But two years after the events of Big Shell, he was revived yet again. He gives snake some kinda advice (Not sure what it is) and dies in front of Snake again. You can also get Big Bosse's face mask if you meet certain requirements. But the detail on his face is so graphic, it looks like something coming from Rotten.com. It Scares soldiers, makes them cry in fear. Major Tom / Zero is back, and he looks awful. You can Control Metal Gear Rex in Shadow Moses Island. Yep, same place MGS1 was. Ocelot is the Final Boss of the game. Classic Snake versus Liquid fight. Bare Handed. For some reason, Snake is called "Naked Snake" in this fight. There are two ways you can get the Stealth Camo. One way is a long way, buy it with Drebin Points for 5,000,000. Or beat the game on Big Boss Extreme, Not die once, not save once, no alert phases once, and no killing people. Gives 100% Camo Index. Althier, the character from Assassin's creed, is an availiable costume. Requirements are killing enemies in CQC > or = 50. Alert phases no more than 25. Easy to do with Stealth Camo according to this guide. There is a special weapon in the game that summons a tornado. Availiable in the Drebin shop for a whopping 10 Million DP I believe. Getting the Big Boss Rank gets you hardly anything. Face camo, and a couple unlock able songs.[/spoilers] Nothing harsh on the story, but I am not gonna tell you the actual story ones. Mainly because, I took the warning to heart, and I am not reading the "Synopsis" of the guide. Its the conclusion, and all around true ending to MGS4, and shows the background. Let me just say, if you have not played MGS3 yet, now would be a good time to do so. Spoiler:
Sigint (The Darpa Chief), Major Zero, and Para-Medic (Doctor Clark) play a vital role in the patriots. Thats all folks. |
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Xeoman Ball and Chain Trooper Administrator Since: 08-14-04 From: 255 Since last post: 88 days Last activity: 76 days |
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| I just barely saw your above spoiler and yeah, one of my friends was so drunk last night and saw images of that on 4chan last night blurting it out. He went crazy, then so did I wondering what the heck could be going on ...
It's insane. Saying this game will be epic isn't enough. Probably won't get to play it for a long time though. 
One thing I'm curious to know and don't mind being spoiled about, is the length. The previous MGS games only took me like ~10-15 hours to complete, which really isn't bad, but I can't imagine MGS4 being that short. There just seems to be so much I think it'd at least be 20 hours long or whatnot. |
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