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Xeoman

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Posted on 10-03-08 02:25 AM Link | Quote
MOTHER FUCKER!!!!

He had ONE FUCKING BAR LEFT.

ONE FUCKING BAR LEFT

ONE BAR LEFT

ONE BAR

Damn, I was stocked up with 6 E Tanks, 7+ lives all the way through the Wily Stages, his last form ... ONE BAR, and I died. One life left, no E tanks, all ammo depleted, three forms of Wily to fight.

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Posted on 10-03-08 03:18 AM Link | Quote
Don't worry Xeo. I got a game over on Wily Stage 3, and realized I was out of E Tanks (only came in the whole thing with 2). I was unsure whether or not they'd let you leave and come back to the level you were on before, but I knew I wouldn't make it without E Tanks. So, I went back.

All that time wasted. So I sort of know how you feel, in that respect, anyway. =/
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Posted on 10-03-08 03:27 AM Link | Quote
Haha, yeah ... I've had a few trials for the Wily Stages. I figured once you started them, you couldn't go back (and if you got a Game Over you'd have to do them all over again like the old games).

Good practice I guess. But damn ... one bar, ugh.

Have you gotten to the Twin Devils yet? Stage 3 boss I believe ... kind of annoying, but they're not too bad once you figure out their weakness.


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Posted on 10-03-08 03:36 AM Link | Quote
Speaking of which, Stage 2 boss was pathetic. Tornado Man's attack works wonders against the midsection (probably the others, too, but I used it at the midsection since the back was so easy to Megabuster). Seriously about 4 hits or so there, and you don't get hit once.
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Posted on 10-03-08 03:39 AM Link | Quote
Wow, I'll have to try that out. I was using the Bee and Magma weapons since they shot vertically.

By the way the Bee can grab those lives from hard-to-reach area's, haha.

I also had no idea the M-Tanks restored everything completely, figured they were just like W-Tanks or whatever they were in the X games (just restoring a selected weapon). Kind of nice to know ... lol.
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Posted on 10-03-08 11:59 AM Link | Quote
I'm happy to say I've just beaten the game about 10 minutes ago. During the ending look in the background on Wily's console to see something familiar.

I managed to finish him off using only 2 Energy tanks. Cement hurts him in his second form. Spark works good against his third form. Then again, it always was the unbelievably short-ranged weapons that did the most damage to him in the past. It's tricky, but it can be done. Good luck to you guys. I'm going for a second time around.

[edit]Oh yeah, for the stage 3 boss use B. Bomb. Shoot it right before the thing comes out so it gets hit, then press start to make it disappear by going to the menu screen. Press start again to get back, then turn around and fire off another round. It should be down to just above half its life on the first pass.


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Posted on 10-03-08 04:45 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Cyro Xero
[edit]Oh yeah, for the stage 3 boss use B. Bomb. Shoot it right before the thing comes out so it gets hit, then press start to make it disappear by going to the menu screen. Press start again to get back, then turn around and fire off another round. It should be down to just above half it life on the first pass.

Haha holy crap, I wonder if they intentionally put this bug in there ... since there was that pause trick you could do in the first Megaman game to defeat the Green Devil real easily.
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Posted on 10-06-08 12:33 AM Link | Quote
Finally got around to beating it. Got both Quick Draw M and Quick Draw X in the last levels!

Now to work on the other achievements!
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Posted on 10-06-08 01:00 AM Link | Quote
This is the easiest game ever now!

No but seriously, you really get it down after awhile if you were good at the other ones I'd say. For Gamer's Day you can just start at a save starting at Wily's stages and just do that 5 times, I did that today while getting Invincible and No Coffee Break.

I have to say, the items in this game can completely save you and make it really easy. For the Invincible one, just do stage by stage without dying and keep saving, then when you're ready for Wily's levels just stock up on Spike Guards, Beats, E-tanks and whatnot, and that Half-Damage item is insanely good for the last level with all the bosses and Wily. Nice to know all their weaknesses too. I've gotten a lot of the Quick Draws on the bosses now, they're way too easy with against their weaknesses, lol.

Also there's a trick to farming for screws, which I'll admit I did today (didn't even really need too though. But if you beat the game with 999 screws and save after beating it, you'll then have a brand new file starting with max screws. I think this'll make Peacekeeper and Conservationist a lot easier to get on New Game+'s).



Plug Man's level, just need the Jewel weapon. I actually stood on that second ledge to speed it up ... but yeah, just let it run for an hour or two and you should be maxed out.
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Posted on 10-06-08 11:42 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, I plan on getting Invincible today. (and with that comes Almost Invincible)

That Half Damage item sounds like it's a lifesaver when it comes to No Coffee Break as well. It also sounds like it can help with Peace Keeper, since you'll probably take a few hits not attacking enemies.
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Posted on 10-06-08 12:48 PM Link | Quote
The only Quick Draw I don't have is for Galaxy Man. I've heard how hard it was and some tricks to do that I'll have to try out.
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Posted on 10-06-08 02:28 PM Link | Quote
I want to see you guys to do a Speedrun for this game. It's proberly too early to start learning Tool Assistance but at least try to beat the game within under 1 hour.
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Posted on 10-06-08 04:49 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by insectduel
I want to see you guys to do a Speedrun for this game. It's proberly too early to start learning Tool Assistance but at least try to beat the game within under 1 hour.

That's one of the achievements and it's really not that hard at all once you finish the game once or so. On my second run I beat it around 40 minutes and that was still not really rushing it.

I've heard some people are beating it in like 25 minutes. That's just sick.
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Posted on 10-06-08 07:06 PM Link | Quote
A really lame death on Wily Stage 3 cost me Invincible, as well as setting me back a couple minutes. I'll finish Invincible later, now that I don't have a time issue.
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Posted on 10-06-08 11:06 PM Link | Quote
Items, man. You can stock up on 3 Spike Guards and Beats for those holes and spikes... heh.

Cheap, but oh well.
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Posted on 10-06-08 11:08 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, I got the Spike Guards. Turns out I didn't really need them all that much. After about the 800th time, I can basically get through the last levels with ease.
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Posted on 10-06-08 11:13 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, same here. Especially after doing "Gamer's Day" ... lol. It's like the Wily stages are easier than the other levels.

Also, time to get Peacekeeper ... I hope.


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Posted on 10-06-08 11:38 PM Link | Quote
On Wily Stage 3 (or was it 2?), there's a part with a bunch of pits and cannons resting on top of pillars. How would that be possible on Peace Keeper? Rush Jet? Because you need to jump on the pillars, but cannons occupy them...
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Posted on 10-06-08 11:45 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Char Aznable
On Wily Stage 3 (or was it 2?), there's a part with a bunch of pits and cannons resting on top of pillars. How would that be possible on Peace Keeper? Rush Jet? Because you need to jump on the pillars, but cannons occupy them...

I think this part and when I went braindead during Wily 2 (killed two enemies or so) might have funked me over.

But yeah, this part ... I have no idea. I actually got past the cannons using Rush Jet and barely hitting the ceiling, but then I hit a spike at the end (luckily had a guard). I then purposely used the one Beat I had in that pit area, but it didn't last long enough for me to get past so I died. Yeah, you pretty much have to kill those two enemies in the pit area, and if you're out of Rush Jet I have no idea how it's possible to get past the cannons.

I killed some projectiles and enemies during boss fights too ... I think I'll be really lucky if I get this achievement.

Watching the credits ... waiting.

Honestly I think Conservationist might be easier than this.
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Posted on 10-06-08 11:47 PM Link | Quote
... and no achievement.

Uh, how the hell.
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