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Rogue
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Posted on 10-21-08 01:10 AM Link | Quote
Spoiler:
Dallas Petrelli is Apocalypse.
FX

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Posted on 10-28-08 11:41 PM Link | Quote
My god... last night's episode had so many plot-holes; I lost count.
Rogue
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Posted on 10-29-08 02:34 AM Link | Quote
Like what sort of holes?

One of my few complaints about the episode, aside from the inevitable reunion of Peter and Claire is the fact that Meredith shows up on the scene with her hand on fire. Does that have to be illustrated ALL the time now?

I'm still rather annoyed that she was written back into the story.

Spoiler:
If only Sandra emptied that clip into her instead.

Or better yet she shot Claire in the head multiple times.
Cairoi
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Since: 08-29-04
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Posted on 10-29-08 11:30 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, I talked to FX, and his plot holes are actually like cinematic inconsistencies (special effects, placing, stuff like that.)

And yeah, Meredith is like super trigger fire happy.
Rogue
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Posted on 10-30-08 12:52 PM Link | Quote
On the fun side, Milo did a signing (for his new comic book, Rest) at Golden Apple comics in L.A.

One of his friends pretty much just puts up videos of him on YouTube being silly, and apparently he pretended to get in line for his signing to joke with people:
Rogue
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Posted on 11-02-08 10:40 PM Link | Quote
Variety reports: Jeph Loeb and Jesse Alexander fired from "Heroes"

'Heroes' duo get the ax
Alexander, Loeb fired in shakeup
By CYNTHIA LITTLETON

Big shakeup on the staff of NBC's "Heroes" came down on Sunday with the axing of co-exec producers Jesse Alexander and Jeph Loeb.

Both scribe-producers had been with the show since its first season and were known to have led the day-to-day production operation under the direction of creator/exec producer Tim Kring.

"Heroes," produced by Universal Media Studios, has struggled in the ratings its third season. It's understood that Alexander and Loeb were let go because of Peacock execs' frustration with the creative direction of the show. The show is also said to have been grappling with hefty budget overruns this season, that are going well beyond its already sizable $4 million per-seg pricetag.

Reps for NBC and UMS declined comment.
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Posted on 11-20-08 03:32 AM Link | Quote
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Posted on 11-20-08 06:23 AM Link | Quote
I don't really know what to think of this series anymore. If my friends didn't watch it I probably wouldn't myself...

Sylar is awesome and all that matters. Though L is sex also.
Rogue
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Posted on 11-20-08 01:51 PM Link | Quote
Message to remaining writers (and Bryan Fuller if he indeed returns from Pushing Daisies):

KILL CLAIRE.

Stop eluding to Nathan either getting killed off or being used as a tool to manipulate the public. What is it with you people not developing some of the characters' plots and storylines past the basic pattern of first season? Your fanbase isn't comprised of morons who just want to see the same thing over and over again.

Furthermore, STOP writing people out. We start out with like 20 people and everything always boils down to Peter and Claire, with dabs of Nathan, Matt, Hiro, and Sylar, and THEN the rest of the friggin' cast.

You better not be teasing with next week's previews. Claire. I want her dead. Got that?


And agreed on Elle and Sylar. Surprisingly hot. Matt/Daphne is just annoying.

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Posted on 11-20-08 01:57 PM Link | Quote
Who's still writing 9th Wonders?
Rogue
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Posted on 11-20-08 02:05 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HAL 9000
Who's still writing 9th Wonders?

I wondered that myself.

I mean, last season Isaac's storyline supposedly had Isaac painting a whole bunch of shit before he died which Bennet and Mohinder were using to figure out the future.

I guess they're trying to claim that Issac put out a certain number of storylines that he submitted to his publisher before he was killed off.

But if that's true, he would know Sylar wasn't killed off when he said he knew how Sylar died (regarding the drawing of Hiro running him through with his sword).

It's a really annoying hole. And it really didn't make sense why they'd even bother dropping it in there, all it did was make them look like continuity-retarded fools.

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Posted on 11-20-08 02:07 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rogue
It's a really annoying hole.

One of many.

Well, they are so much holes as things that are just stupid...
Rogue
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Posted on 11-20-08 02:13 PM Link | Quote
You mean like how Nathan came back from the dead despite the fact that the Linderman he was communicating with was just an illusion concocted by Maury Parkman?

Or how the air supposedly being cut off in the container Claire and Meredith went into would not only suffocate Claire, but also Meredith AND extinguish her ability to create fire? Fire does need oxygen after all.

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Posted on 11-20-08 07:24 PM Link | Quote
Or how some powers are shared hereditarily, like Matt and his dad, Meredith and her brother, all of the Petrelli's; yet the rest are just random?
Rogue
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Posted on 11-30-08 09:43 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HAL 9000
Or how some powers are shared hereditarily, like Matt and his dad, Meredith and her brother, all of the Petrelli's; yet the rest are just random?

It's somewhat slightly random in other super hero 'verses, so I never really thought of it as a hole. Supposedly everyone's affected differently.

Then again, we still don't know if Kaito had a power or what it was if he did. Maybe he was a time traveller too? Possibly his wife was.

Well, how about the fact that EVERYONE'S now claiming that the eclipse gave them all their powers? Nathan's came up before the eclipse. As did Arthur's, Angela's, Niki/Jessica's, Sylar's, Bob's, Elle's, Meredith's, Claude's, most of the people in Area 5, and most especially Kinsei.

Different eclipse then? Guh.

Another rather annoying hole is the fact that now they're claiming after a season of family problems with their father that Niki/Jessica and now Tracy were all grown instead of born to their parents.


And once again--to the writers: KILL CLAIRE. Write her off just like you do every. body. else.

Cut off the finger to save the arm and in turn the whole body.
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Posted on 11-30-08 01:46 PM Link | Quote
How can there even be an eclipse one year later? Has the orbit of the earth/moon/sun been altered?
Rogue
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Posted on 12-01-08 04:19 AM Link | Quote
If you gain and lose powers with eclipses, wouldn't Kinsei have aged and or turned to dust a LONG time ago?

On a completely different note, it's amusing to me that two of my side characters in our RP converged in the last episode. When Peter and Nathan go looking for the Haitian, he mentions that he's off to fight his brother (who had the power of impenetrable skin). Agwe, Cally's friend, I created to be a brother of the Haitian, while Abel my character I created before the thread went inactive had impenetrable skin.

Anyway, several people have written reviews bitching that all the "cool powers" have already been taken. Here's a short list that still haven't shown up on the show:
- Elasticity
- Multiplicity
- Water manipulation
- Earth manipulation/Earthquake generation
- Weather control
- Transfiguration (be it able to transform other things or themselves. Candice could create illusions of her appearance and the area around her, but it wasn't permanent).
- Metal manipulation (Jeph Loeb said at Wizard World L.A. this year that Tim Kring wanted to put in a character that had magnetic powers. Loeb asked, "Like Magneto?" Kring answered, "Wha? Who?")
- Plant manipulation/generation
- Communication with animals
- Shield/force field generation
- Change objects into pure kinetic energy (Now that would be blatantly stealing from Marvel )
- Fate/luck manipulation
- Ability to shrink or grow
Rogue
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Posted on 12-04-08 06:27 PM Link | Quote
OK... I think I've given up on this show. As a die-hard fan, I will continue watching 'til the end, but I'm finding far less enthusiasm in it.

Since Jeph Loeb and Jesse Alexander were fired from the show because they were going in a different direction than was originally believed, I have some hope that perhaps it will right itself after the winter hiatus when their names will cease to exist on the show's credits.

I dunno... I knew Claire would come out all right, but I was so hoping she really would be done for.

The losing-their-powers-because-of-the-eclipse-and-regaining-them-once-it's-over thing was extremely anti-climactic as NO ONE truly took advantage of it in the main storyline. So the Haitian fought his brother? Big freakin' deal. Why didn't ANYONE launch an attack on an "I'm feeling vulnerable" Arthur Petrelli?!

What's more I'm really getting tired of all of this pairing bullshit with Sylar. All the shippers are going nuts in the absurd confusion. Is he hot for Mohinder? He killed Mohinder's father. So no. He's courting Maya? Killed Alejandro, so no. He kills Bob and tries to kill Elle for her power. They can't possibly go out!! But they do. They don't. They do? Oh well she's dead.

I don't know. I give up.

Continuing on the random note from the last post regarding the Haitian's brother, it's still funny to me that they created this character and gave him the name "Baron Samedi," which was a name I was considering for "Agwe," due to its roots in the region's religious beliefs. Agwe being a Haitian water god and Baron Samedi a Haitian vodou-specific figure of Death. Heh.

Anyway... they need to write Monica back in.
Cairoi
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Posted on 12-07-08 02:04 PM Link | Quote
Rogue, I can understand your feelings, because as a diehard fan, I'm less interested in the show than I was, but keep in mind these episodes were made when they were being retarded and before they realized how much they were messing up.

Great news: Bryan Fuller (you know, basically the writer responsible for Season One) is coming back. He left to go make Pushing Daises, but he's coming back which is definitely a good sign.

That being said, people did take advantage of the eclipse: HRG. HRG is the only person who knows how to do something without powers because he's that awesome, and truth be told, he's been kind of removed from the Arthur Petrelli conflict. I think nobody in the Company took advantage of Arthur Petrelli's vulnerable because of its disarry right now.

That being said, it was pretty anti-climactic. And yes, they do need to write Monica back in.
Rogue
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Posted on 12-08-08 01:12 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, I had Bennet on my mind, but Elle and Sylar's tryst didn't factor in for me as "main storyline," like this season's main villain, Arthur "Dallas" Petrelli.

What's more I'm really tired of the twisting things just for the sake of twisting, then twisting them back because it was already too crazy to begin with. Sylar's paternal origins for example.

I knew Bryan would be coming back after Pushing Daisies was announced as canceled. I've been hoping he'd return to sort some things out.

I'm still not quite sure what the point of taking Claire to the past will accomplish, but we'll see.
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