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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable          Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 99 days Last activity: 99 days |
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| So, today at the end of lecture, one of my teachers informed us of something that literally disgusted me. Next fall, the California State University system will be laying off ALL of their part-time faculty. There are 22,000 teachers in the entire system, about 10,000 or more of them are part-time. That's right, they are getting ride of almost half of all the teachers in the system. The heads have been wanting to do this for awhile in order to "streamline" the California education system like a corporation, and they are using the budget crisis as their justification for it now.
This means that next semester, students in the CSU system will be paying a 20% fee increase, still dealing with furlough days, and over half the faculty will no longer be there. Oh, and almost all the majors on campus were already becoming impacted (really hard to get in to). So you have way more classes to take to get into the majors, and almost no classes available. Then the full time faculty needs to pick up the slack by teaching classes they haven't taught in 10-15 years, so they will be sub par classes as a result. Joy. (Last edited by Elara on 12-09-09 07:41 PM) |
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Rogue If you're reading this... You are the Resistance Since: 08-17-04 Since last post: 633 days Last activity: 442 days |
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| To be honest that sounds REALLY exaggerated. CSUF isn't getting rid of its part-time staff, at least not all of them.
We are going through a hiring freeze and they are making cuts where they can, but I'm still going to be rather skeptical until I see an official announcement about the staff. It sounds like speculation to me among all the fears of fee hikes, furloughs, and the like. EDIT: Fixing HTML coding. (Last edited by Rogue on 12-11-09 05:00 PM) |
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 99 days Last activity: 99 days |
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| The professor that was telling us about it works part time at both CSULB and CSULA and he was given the information by both schools. | |||
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Rogue If you're reading this... You are the Resistance Since: 08-17-04 Since last post: 633 days Last activity: 442 days |
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| Perhaps that teacher is just getting laid off from both schools?
If all part-timers were going to be cut, someone (a bitter, soon-to-be-unemployed, doctorate-holding unappreciated educator, perhaps) would have told the press by now and there would be outrage and stories all over about this. The only AP story regarding CSU budget cuts in the past few days mentions employees agreeing to take furloughs. There doesn't appear to be anything in the Daily 49er or University Times (granted their site doesn't seem to be updated at all), and we haven't heard anything at our paper either. Our school's president, Milton Gordon, stops by to talk with us when something serious is about to be announced. I don't doubt that the teacher said it, and I completely understand being pissed about being laid off by two schools, it just doesn't sound plausible that they entire Cal State system would hack off every single part-timer. CSULB and CSULA might just be doing it on their own. I know there's a "Day Without the CSU" planned for next semester where the entire system has a furlough day, and we're still going to have a furlough week on top of every professor taking 2 furlough days a month. (Last edited by Rogue on 12-12-09 03:54 AM) |
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 99 days Last activity: 99 days |
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| I also wonder at why they say nothing in the paper... however, I've noticed that the daily49er doesn't always jump on things. But from what the teacher himself had been told, all the part timers were being cut. I do not know his sources. It might just be in the history department, however he told us what he himself had been told. He didn't seem pissed, he honestly seemed more worried about us because of how much harder it was going to be for students to get classes.
Also, I've noticed this at Long Beach but I don't know about the other schools, but it seems that more often than not the part time teachers are the ones that don't have the PhD, or at least they don't care enough to stress it. They are increasing the furloughs that much? Dear gods, how the hell do they plan to have this work? |
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Shuyin Baron of Radical  Since: 08-19-04 Since last post: 3964 days Last activity: 3870 days |
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| I haven't heard anything like this happening at CSUN. I'm well aware of the budget cuts and I've been a victim of the limited courses. However I haven't heard anything this extreme yet.
I guess it's still possible. It could just be speculation, as this wouldn't happen until a year from now. I'll email one of my professors and see if they have any insight on the situation. |
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