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Should we keep this forum?| Vote, and please brief your opinion! | Yes. |
73.7%, 14 votes | No |
26.3%, 5 votes | Multi-voting is disabled. 19 users have voted.
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Xeoman Ball and Chain Trooper Administrator          Since: 08-14-04 From: 255 Since last post: 90 days Last activity: 79 days |
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| I just want to see what you guys think of the forum.
I've gotten arguements about it a lot overtime. A lot of people honestly get annoyed that, more than half of the forum is entirely made up of "Love" and relationship issues. The problem here, is that these things can get pretty intense. We had incidents in the past where people vented about others, these people that were (basically) flamed eventually saw that, and joined the forums solely to post in those forums and argue back with those people. So really, the discussion of other people should probably be limited, or something. It's not like this issue has been replayed recently or anything, but I still get complaints about the forum being a waste. What do you guys think? |
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Astrophel Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything; Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering  Since: 10-03-04 From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta Since last post: 2482 days Last activity: 1333 days |
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| Other boards - Acmlm's springing immediately to mind - have had such a forum without any major issues. It's one that has to have a mod keeping a close eye on it, yes, but Debate also falls under that category. And that doesn't mean it's not worth keeping.
I could say that Crazy Nonsense is a waste because it's nonsense. Or that Online Gaming and Game Design/Creation are useless because of a lack of activity. But I haven't said that. Or, for another way to look at it, we've had Sunset Waterfall for as long as I can remember. It wouldn't be the same without it, really. And I'm sure a lot of those same topics would just pop up in General (I've seen other boards without such a forum; General Chat (or it's equivalent) is where those go all the time.)). I see no real benefit in getting rid of it. As far as other people registering just to argue about something that was said there... meh. They wouldn't have registered for any other reason, apparently, and they just leave after the thread gets closed because of excessive drama. This usually doesn't happen, though. More of a problem is when someone takes an issue with anotehr board member to Sunset, but I haven't seen that happen in a long time. |
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable  Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 102 days Last activity: 102 days |
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| Those threads got closed down really fast when they did pop up, but as for the "love and relationship" threads... what the hell is the damn thing for then?
It wouldn't be the same without it, and I am not just saying that because it was my forum for the longest time... nor because I still treat it as such. People like the forum, we share our joys and our woes and like Tamarin said, if not in Sunset, then it will appear in General. |
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Cyro Xero Rune Mage  Rave Atom  Since: 02-23-05 From: Minnesota!! Since last post: 52 days Last activity: 52 days |
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| Just to clarify, are you asking if we should keep it around? If so I think yes. It's nice for people to have a place where they can get feelings off their chest and have people respond back for comfort. Take it away and you end up seeing a bunch of "help me", or "I'm mad" threads in General. And may ruin the forum for some. | |||
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Rogue If you're reading this... You are the Resistance Since: 08-17-04 Since last post: 636 days Last activity: 445 days |
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| I can see why Sunset is useful when you want to unload about a relative dying or how your English teacher blows or you want valid advice about an issue you've been having be it with a significant other, your parents, friends, what have you.
I personally steer clear of the forum, though. There are too many open wounds there crying for someone to kiss them. I mean, and don't get me wrong about this, many good threads are there that want to talk about life and how it can be cruel and merciful to them, then there are the threads that have a "Pity me" nature and pretty much beg for people to lavish them with huggles and compliments and so forth. I'll give you a current example. Suicide. If you're going to do it and tell us you don't want our help no matter what we say, then why are you friggin' posting about it? Do it already. Oh? You weren't really going to? Was this an outcry for attention? Sure looks like it. Well huggles and "You're a strong person and please don't kill yourself because we love you" just the same. Bye now. Suicide is a serious matter and to tell us that you think about it isn't something to take lightly. To play with our emotions on the subject for your need of love and attention is evil. I do feel that Sunset as an advice and venting forum for serious life topics is good, but when it's flooded with these things that's when I look the other way. In converse of Debate falling under the same heading, debate is meant for arguing issues without using unfair emotional appeal. In other words, it's meant to be based on logic, not personal dispute. |
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Astrophel Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything; Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering Since: 10-03-04 From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta Since last post: 2482 days Last activity: 1333 days |
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| My comment about Debate being similar to Sunset was that both are forums that should be closely watched by moderators because both are the type of forums that are most likely to escalate into flaming.
I'm not really sure anyone could disagree with that, but if you do, go right ahead and tell me why. |
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Xeoman Ball and Chain Trooper Administrator Since: 08-14-04 From: 255 Since last post: 90 days Last activity: 79 days |
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| Well I honestly wasn't up for getting rid of the forum, but I just wanted to see what you guys thought of it.
People should just kind of think of possible consenquences (I'm tired, that's probably horribly spelled) that could happen for types of threads they could make in that forum, before they're posted. |
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Makura Since: 01-22-05 From: The restaurant at the end of the universe.... Since last post: 5889 days Last activity: 5154 days |
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| I like the forum personally.And I agree with Elara..wouldn't be the same without it. It's a good way of sharing how we're doing. It gives some emotion to the board. So yeah, it stays. | |||
Evo Red Super Koopa Watching you fall brings joy to my heart....  Since: 08-16-04 From: Oregon Since last post: 6111 days Last activity: 6051 days |
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| I love Sunset. I remember in MoD it used to be filled with more than just love and relationship issues. Sunset and Crazy were my two favorite forums, and now they're both basically dead.
I think, though, that if some people wish not to read about other's relationships, they can just mark the forum read and ignore it. I do that with certain threads I feel no point in reading after the first post. *shrugs* We need a Sunset. Where else would we go to rant about a bad day?  |
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BBQMissile ChaoticDeath  Since: 08-16-04 From: New York Since last post: 4940 days Last activity: 928 days |
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| I think only Kaijin, Xeo, and Katana know what my answer to this question will be.
In all honesty, I hate the Sunset Waterfall forum. It's always the same thing. Someone whines about their problems and other members fake emotions. "Omg, i'm so sorry!" "Oh no! I hope you get better!" "Don't worry! It's ok! *huggles*". In my opinion, that isn't sympathy/empathy or whatever. That's just bullshit. But yeah. I chose no in the poll...like that will make a difference. The majority will win and the Sunset Waterfall will stay. No biggie. |
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True Flight The One Since: 08-21-04 Since last post: 102 days Last activity: 102 days |
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| I clearly have no opinion on this question. (What ever you want me to vote has to scare me into it =P)
I mean I like the idea of it, because I wrote down something I really needed help with. LIke the fact that it sort of hurst to play my keyboard now becuase of the thought of not playing for my granddad anymore. But I still do because it's something I need to keep up with nad stuff. Just needed some encouragement. But the fact that the whoel thing is about love stories and stuff like that sort of gets on my nerves. You learn to get over losing a chick or guy. You learn to move on. It's a given. What about those rants? We would have people going crazy if they don't write them down. Answer: LIVEJOURNALS, MYSPACE, and GREATESTJOURNAL and so on. But yeah that's a good answer to all of that. I've actually seen some pretty brutal arguements on LJs too.  Between my sis and her "friend" tif. Anyway I'm sort stuck on this one. I usually go in clark mark forum read and move on. SO it's not that big a deal to me. I rarely ever post in there. Only when I can.
Sis is a lurker and she comments on people's problems and such because she's a counseling person. PLUS there's the fact that she likes to correct people there. XD |
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Evo Red Super Koopa Watching you fall brings joy to my heart.... Since: 08-16-04 From: Oregon Since last post: 6111 days Last activity: 6051 days |
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| Yeah. I use my LJ for stuff like that. I just think it's a good place for people to go when they need support. I don't like the whole "OMG my boyfriend broke up with me" sort of thing... but at the same time, if my fiance (and future father of my baby) broke up with me, you can bet your ass that I'd be posting in Sunset.
I say if you don't like the forum, ignore it. But some people need it. |
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Astrophel Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything; Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering Since: 10-03-04 From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta Since last post: 2482 days Last activity: 1333 days |
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Originally posted by EvoIt appears that this would be too easy for some people. |
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Xeoman Ball and Chain Trooper Administrator Since: 08-14-04 From: 255 Since last post: 90 days Last activity: 79 days |
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Yeah, common sense seems hard to aquire these days.  |
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Makura Since: 01-22-05 From: The restaurant at the end of the universe.... Since last post: 5889 days Last activity: 5154 days |
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Originally posted by Tamarin CalanisOriginally posted by EvoIt appears that this would be too easy for some people. Well stated, man. Some members don't have a problem doing that. |
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