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Would you like it to be necessary to have a profile to take part in the more advenced Sim Battles?
Basically, do you think it should be required to have an accurate, and well-written profile in order for a user to take place in: Title Fights, Divisions, Tournaments, and other special Sim-Battle forum related things. NOTE: This will absolutely not forbid someone from fighting with a character if they are new, just keep them out of the aforementioned items.
YES, I absolutely love this rule!!!
 
11.1%, 1 vote
No, this rule is stupid!!!!
 
88.9%, 8 votes
Multi-voting is disabled. 9 users have voted.

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Xeios

You WANKER!








Since: 08-16-04

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Posted on 12-17-05 03:32 PM Link | Quote
Yea, I was thinking this would be a good idea, just so that everyone who fights in a tournament against someone, at least has some sort of reference material to read about his opponent on, either before or after. This of course, would not apply to weapon master tourny, as it doen't really keep anything of a character, except for his/her/its description.

SO, what does everyone think?
BBQMissile

ChaoticDeath









Since: 08-16-04
From: New York

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Posted on 12-17-05 10:18 PM Link | Quote
I personally do not like this rule. Just because someone may have a well written profile doesn't mean it will reveal everything about the character. Most people prefer keeping some things a secret. The addition of this rule will require everybody to literally dish out all the info on their character. Also, this rule can be abused very much. Let's say one fighter does something and the other fighter doesn't like it simply because it's placed him in a difficult position. The second fighter can simply have the other fighter DQed if this 'technique' wasn't mentioned in the profile. Now the first fighter could have made it up on the fly or it could have been a technique he developed a while ago but never used.

Worst comes to worst, a fighter will complain about everylittle thing a fighter does simply because it was not 'in the profile'.
Xeios

You WANKER!








Since: 08-16-04

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Posted on 12-17-05 11:13 PM Link | Quote
well, maybe not well written. But there should at least be a profile with basic details. So that research could be done well before a fight is issued.
Shuyin

Baron of Radical








Since: 08-19-04

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Posted on 12-18-05 12:32 AM Link | Quote
I didn't vote because I agree with both sides.

I think for tournaments and belt matches a basic profile should be mandatory. Not necesarily a move list but what your character is capable of doing. (Elements, immunities, status boosters, ect.) That way people can't just pull moves their character isn't capable of doing out of their ass.

But I think it should stop there. Improvisation happens in almost every battle so a technique list would only hinder the battle.
BBQMissile

ChaoticDeath









Since: 08-16-04
From: New York

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Posted on 12-18-05 02:12 AM Link | Quote
So basically, what you're asking for is not really a 'profile' per se but actually more like a 'stat sheet', something that lists immunities, boosters, etc. of the character.
Cyro Xero

Rune Mage

Rave Atom








Since: 02-23-05
From: Minnesota!!

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Posted on 12-18-05 12:30 PM Link | Quote
I'm sort of for both sides in this. One of the things I strongly encourage to other people is to be true to your characters' abilities. I don't like it when people suddenly come up with something to get out of a situation, so for some people a "stat sheet" should be made, but why force just them? It would be a little like discrimination if no one else had to do the same. People shouldn't be making stuff up anyway.
Shuyin

Baron of Radical








Since: 08-19-04

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Posted on 12-18-05 02:39 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sparda
So basically, what you're asking for is not really a 'profile' per se but actually more like a 'stat sheet', something that lists immunities, boosters, etc. of the character.


Yes.

I think it only should be applied in matches that matter (Tournaments, Ranking, Belt Challenges) and be optional in casual fights.
BBQMissile

ChaoticDeath









Since: 08-16-04
From: New York

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Posted on 12-18-05 05:09 PM Link | Quote
Well, if it's just a stat sheet, then I have absolutely no problem with that. But to what degree is the stat sheet enough?

-Elemental Immunities
-Status Immunities
-Status Boosters
-Elemental Boosters

What else should be necessary for a stat sheet?

Note: I still disagree with Xeios rule but I'm in favor of the "stat sheet" idea.
Kaijin Surohm
Living the dream








Since: 08-16-04

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Posted on 12-19-05 01:26 AM Link | Quote
I'm not in favor of Xeios' rule, or the stat sheet.

'Stat Sheets' should not be manditory, just like how it is now. All the sheet would accomplish is a Cheat Sheet for your opponent, for they would know all your immunities, weakness's, abilites, and whatnot, and tweak their character accordingly so they could win the fight easily.

I'd say if they truely wan't to know information on the character, then have them acctually get off their ass and read past fights.
Lord Vulkas Mormonus

Vile
High Xeodent of Xeomerica.








Since: 10-29-04
From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way

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Posted on 12-19-05 07:01 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, I'm going to have to go against it too. Before my current character, I never had a sheet. I'll probably take out Laex's too soon, because I don't like all of the information to be read, as too many people take advantage of seeing my character.

So yeah, I also read other past battles before I fight people, which I would like to not be a waste. I'm voting no for both.
Cairoi
This isn't about you and your loud mouth,
This is about me and my fucking beard.








Since: 08-29-04
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Posted on 12-19-05 10:27 AM Link | Quote
I personally disagree with you, Kaijin. A true simbattler doesn't change who they are based on thier enemy, but stays true to their character. Also, one shouldn't be afraid of another person looking up information on your character. Seeing as how characters change over time, a profile would be the most accurate source of information. In past fights, someone might have used a move that had just made up and such.

So, I agree with the second idea, but not entirely the first...
Cyro Xero

Rune Mage

Rave Atom








Since: 02-23-05
From: Minnesota!!

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Posted on 12-19-05 11:02 AM Link | Quote
With the stat sheet thing, the person's opponent wouldn't necessarily have to look at it, and instead all information could go to a judge so he can watch if fighters are being cheap. In other words veiwing the stats could be limited to just the judges. Maybe that could work.
Shuyin

Baron of Radical








Since: 08-19-04

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Posted on 12-19-05 12:34 PM Link | Quote
The stat sheet wouldn't have to show weaknesses and strengths.

Having only:
-Elemental Immunities
-Status Immunities
-Status Boosters
and Elemental Abilities should be sufficient.

As Cyro said it could be available to only the judges if it presents that big of a problem.
BBQMissile

ChaoticDeath









Since: 08-16-04
From: New York

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Posted on 12-19-05 05:34 PM Link | Quote
I'm for the judge idea. By this method, the opponent will not be able to see a fighter's strengths and weaknesses in a stat sheet, if it is revealed, thus, preventing him from gaining an unfair advantage. And the judge can simply refer to the stat sheets from the two fighters to decide of something was illegal or not...though some nooks and crannys of this idea would have to be polished.
Kaijin Surohm
Living the dream








Since: 08-16-04

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Posted on 12-19-05 08:23 PM Link | Quote
That might work, the judge idea. Though I'm a bit sketchy on it.

We could revert all our Judges and Trainers back to our Staff only rule, and have all the character's sheets posted, by the judges, in a staff viewed only forum/thread, thus preventing normal fighters seeing it.

I really just don't like the idea of Weaknesses and Immunities being known. It takes the fun out of battling. For example (This is an obvious one) Kaijin is immune to Darkness. I've had an opponent in the past not know this, and hit me with it.

The look on his face was priceless, and made the fight more intresting.
For both fighters.

Jity Horo

Beast








Since: 01-01-05

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Posted on 12-19-05 09:08 PM Link | Quote
Yea but most of the judges are also sim battlers are they not. Whats to stop a judge who is about to fight someone to just look through some things a fight accordingly.
Kaijin Surohm
Living the dream








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Posted on 12-19-05 09:14 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jity Horo
Yea but most of the judges are also sim battlers are they not. Whats to stop a judge who is about to fight someone to just look through some things a fight accordingly.

That's exactly the problem...

Maybe Sparda has an idea or two on that?
Lord Vulkas Mormonus

Vile
High Xeodent of Xeomerica.








Since: 10-29-04
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Posted on 12-20-05 01:38 PM Link | Quote
Perhaps a judge who does not sim, a retired fighter. Are there any of those that could view the profile, and be the only one to view it?
BBQMissile

ChaoticDeath









Since: 08-16-04
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Posted on 12-20-05 02:52 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Vulkar
Perhaps a judge who does not sim, a retired fighter. Are there any of those that could view the profile, and be the only one to view it?


Do we have one of those?

LoL, in response to Kaijin, no, I don't have an idea. Like I said, this idea could work...if we polish certain things.
Shuyin

Baron of Radical








Since: 08-19-04

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Posted on 12-20-05 04:54 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kaijin Surohm
That might work, the judge idea. Though I'm a bit sketchy on it.
I really just don't like the idea of Weaknesses and Immunities being known. It takes the fun out of battling. For example (This is an obvious one) Kaijin is immune to Darkness. I've had an opponent in the past not know this, and hit me with it.



Weaknesses don't necessarily need to be posted. However I think having one's immunities listed is imperative.

If a person can't think of a way to get out of a move they can say "I'm immune to it" without needing any proof.

The 'sheet' would only be seen by a selected few. It's not like it would be flaunted out for all to see.
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