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Stitch Roy Koopa Holy crap, it is the RoboCoonie!          Since: 08-20-04 From: California Since last post: 935 days Last activity: 935 days |
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| Sony Online Entertainment has merged with Sony Pictures Digital Entertainment. Which means, I'm part of SOE now. So, new opportunities with the merger...possibly. Cool.
I'm on my way to interview for Limelife on Monday for a permanent QA position with their up-and-coming company. Limelife is paying for airfare and a car to pick me up from/return me to the airport. They're offering a permanent, full-time, benefits package, upper five-figure income to me ($60K to $80K range). The only issue is relocation, of which I have no problem doing. 'Cept for finding adequate housing. And, I still need a car. The merger could prove to be both a good and a bad thing. Only time will tell. But, I don't have the time to just wait around at $10/hour. I want that better position. But, I do wanna see where Sony is headed before I decide to leave the company. So, I'm stuck between choosing to stay with Sony where I'm suffering through office politics, being underappreciated, and have yet to be promoted despite being well-qualified, or look for other opportunities which involve relocation. I have plenty of companies to choose from...I love technical job recruiters...but what to do? Given the situation, what would you do? |
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Belial Bazu Since: 01-29-05 From: New Zealand Since last post: 4366 days Last activity: 3980 days |
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| If it were up to me, I would take the job, even if it meant relocating. I'd look at it as a new adventure. ^-^ | |||
Déesse Sailor Déesse Mistress of Pink Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy  Since: 08-14-04 From: The Moon Since last post: 6566 days Last activity: 6298 days |
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| You could always go for the interview see if you get it and then make a final decision if you want to move or not. If your not ready or don't feel all that comfortable with moving jobs and relocating you can always tell your current job what you've been offered and see if they can up that or get a promotion there.
My work-friend was offered another job and went to the interview; got the job but before she said yes to them she went to our boss to see if they would up her pay etc. they didn’t want to loose her so they upped her pay and she’s actually a little relieved she didn’t leave. But if it were me and I was being underappreciated and waiting still for a promotion after being with the company for a while and/or being the best one qualified for a higher position, I would go for it. I mean your still young and all; there will always be other opportunities if it doesn’t work out. |
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avatar of law Beezo  Since: 12-29-04 From: paris, canada Since last post: 5769 days Last activity: 5769 days |
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| i dont really understand you. you always seem to huff about how good you are with computers, and what an asset you are, yet you're working at $10/hr. i know you used to work for TSA, and all that other mumbo jumbo...
so what happened to you? how is someone so overworked, getting paid only $10/hr? i dont understand why you even kept such a job. even if it was just to pay the bills, i still dont understand... but to answer the question: go for the interview, it never hurts. if you start right away, go to the cheapest hotel, put it on your credit card. it gets billed in a month, and depending on the company, you can pay it the month after that month, or even pay the minimum. in the meantime, you'll get paid in two weeks. so live off your credit card for two weeks. by the time the bill comes, you'll already have had 3 paychecks to cover it. you'll be fine. w/ that pay, after maybe 2 months of living on the minimum, you'll be swimming in cash. |
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Stitch Roy Koopa Holy crap, it is the RoboCoonie! Since: 08-20-04 From: California Since last post: 935 days Last activity: 935 days |
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| Okay, I never said I wasn't going to do the interview...I still am.
But, it is more money. And I wouldn't mind doing the relocation. But, I can move up faster at Sony and work for a well-known company in the industry... I don't know, I'm weird. I've even gotten an offer from Sony Japan to work on their QA division for Sony Robotics ($120K annually). But, relocation to a whole other country? I'm building my knowledge, basically. That's why I stay with Sony. It allows me to learn from their mistakes so that when I open my development company five years down the line, I don't commit the same mistakes. In the meantime, I'm just learning and using stuff until someone offers me something better. Also, I'm a contract employee, so telling my employer that I'm being offered better pay and a higher position doesn't affect him. His advice is to take the position, since he's in no position to dictate my pay. |
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Logos Again? Banned  Since: 07-24-06 Since last post: 6106 days Last activity: 6196 days |
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Originally posted by Zabuza 10$/hour vs. 120K$ per year, I wonder which is better? Am I the only one seeing a better choice? And something that doesn't make any sense? Do explain, please. |
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Stitch Roy Koopa Holy crap, it is the RoboCoonie! Since: 08-20-04 From: California Since last post: 935 days Last activity: 935 days |
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| In order to survive based on the cost of living of Japan, I would need $240,000 a year to be equivalent to a $65K/year salary in Los Angeles. Basically, $120,000 a year in Japan is pretty much equivalent to a $25K a year job in Los Angeles. It averages out because the cost of living is significantly higher in Japan than that of Los Angeles.
As is the job in the bay area, which is a higher cost of living than that of Los Angeles. Not to mention, I'd have to factor relocation costs (plane alone is in the thousands for airfare), food, rent, transportation, utilities, phone, internet and every other little factor. In the end, I'd still be making just enough to barely skate by...but I'd be in Japan. The same thing with the Bay Area, but not as extreme. I can survive there on whatever over $50K salary they'll offer. It's mostly a relocation cost issue (and leaving behind friends and family), but if it were just an easy change of work and everything else just fell into place, I'd be writing this from Japan. But, alas, life is not that easy. There are other underlying factors that I haven't explained. For one, my car is now paralyzed and dying (battery is still good). I have credit card debts (about $3K), school loans ($20K or so, and mounting), schooling (even though its mostly all online now), parent to maintain (I maintain the bills and utilities, not her), and all of my incidentals on top of that. So, for my knowledge, I feel that $60K is my minimum. My recruiters say they can find me jobs that will easily pay me $105K a year with a $10K signing bonus. It's like I'm an athlete of some sort...well, desk jockey I guess...but yeah. But, there are a few factors involved. The interview tomorrow will help me decide. And, Sony Japan would have been easy. That one would just be an inter-company transfer. But, I wanna stay in the gaming division, not the robotics division. And, almost all of Sony's game development is down in California. |
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable  Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 101 days Last activity: 101 days |
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| Ah, I was going to ask where the job would call for you to relocate to, now I know. Personally, from what I've heard from my uncle in San Francisco, the Bay Area has it's advantages and disadvantages. Parking is a nightmare, but public transportation is rather good (so car issue not so bad). Housing is cramped and expensive, and it rains a lot more (that part is not so bad really). Lots of activities to go to, but all your friends are in Long Beach or near it so new friends would be needed... but there is the Castro district.
But with the issue of taking care of your mom and all that, I'd lean toward Sony. I don't think you'd be able to leave her behind, and I don't think she'd take relocating very well. |
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Stitch Roy Koopa Holy crap, it is the RoboCoonie! Since: 08-20-04 From: California Since last post: 935 days Last activity: 935 days |
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| I was planning on leaving her behind, and I'd be living in Menlo Park, which isn't too bad. The commute to/from work is a straight shot up the 101 if I get a place in San Jose somewhere.
The interview went well, and I really like the company. Just gotta see if they feel the same. I may have seemed a little scattered during the interview, but I was operating on no food (outside of airline peanuts) and very little sleep. We'll see. My mom is fine with me moving out on my own as long as I plan on eventually moving her up with me. The company spent a good chunk of change to shuttle me to/from the airport in Lincoln Towncars and the flight there and back--including a last-minute change in departure time on the way back. But, I took the video camera, so it'll be in the next update of "Adventures of a Gay Man". |
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Elara Divine Mamkute Dark Elf Goddess Chaos Imp Penguins Fan Ms. Invisable Since: 08-15-04 From: Ferelden Since last post: 101 days Last activity: 101 days |
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| Well, I am glad that it went well. You just better be sure to visit us from time to time or frozen tuna shall rain down upon you in righteous fury.
...don't ask, I also have had little in the way of sleep lately. |
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Xeios You WANKER! Since: 08-16-04 Since last post: 5076 days Last activity: 1386 days |
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| Go for the smaller company job. But keep your options open for Sony. Deinitely apply for a higher-up position in the gaming part of Sony, and keep doing so until they give you the job. Or, find a way to politely tell your boss you have to search for better offers because It's too difficult for you to live on your current income, and if that could be changed, the company will not lose you. | |||
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Stitch Roy Koopa Holy crap, it is the RoboCoonie! Since: 08-20-04 From: California Since last post: 935 days Last activity: 935 days |
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| I'm not sure if it will work that way. Previous attempts have told me that I'd be better off just taking the other job. I figure, work my way up with the start-up, and if they take off--I'll stay there. If not, get the title and experience and reapply with Sony after a year or so.
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Xeios You WANKER! Since: 08-16-04 Since last post: 5076 days Last activity: 1386 days |
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| I don't know if you were referring to my post, but I thought that was what I said, just a bit...more awkwardly I guess. But yes, definitely do that, it seems like it would be the best course of action, and Sony will hopefully have a good report on you when you attempt to re-apply later. But it's definitely bullshit how they over-work you and under-pay you. I have companies like that. |
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