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Xeoman

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Posted on 06-07-07 12:59 AM Link | Quote
I guess its not a "bad note", I mean we all want to see the War of the Machines sometime.


A pair of people who are still connected to Terminator 4 are screenwriters Michael Ferris and John Brancato, who also wrote Terminator 3 and have the T4 script already finished and under lock and key.


Its just ... that. That's what bugs me about all this, I just don't know what to expect now. Rumors are going around that Arnold might be in the background and help out with the projects as well, though I don't think that's officially confirmed. Its probably no surprise if he doesn't return to uprise his role once again because of his age, physical self, etc. But yeah.

James Cameron would be great. But we can dream.


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Posted on 06-07-07 01:03 AM Link | Quote
Thing is, if it's the future, they don't need Arnold. In the war they only use T-90's (the metal skeletons) and HK's (Hunter Killers, the tanks guys), and some other things. Point is, they don't really use T-101's (The human looking ones), except for infiltration, but everyone knows what they look like.
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Posted on 06-07-07 06:32 AM Link | Quote
You wanna know whats funny?

I never actually put imput about this topic, mainly because it was gonna be the same old "Oh yeah, im so gonna watch this, yeah."

But here is something for you:

My dad dosent believe this is gonna happen. Looked at me like a looser or something.

And hes a huge Terminator fan...know anyone like this guys and gals?
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Posted on 06-07-07 02:40 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Nagis
My dad dosent believe this is gonna happen. Looked at me like a looser or something.


You mean he doesn' think it's going to succeed, or he doesn't think it's going to even be on? Because FOX already picked up the pilot.
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Posted on 06-07-07 05:44 PM Link | Quote
At least it wasn't NBC. How many shows after Heroes did they kill off?

(so this probably has a better chance of staying on air with Fox ... I guess)
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Posted on 06-07-07 05:45 PM Link | Quote
Yes, but it's FOX!

Firefly, Drive, Family Guy, and a countless number of good shows.
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Posted on 08-04-07 02:55 AM Link | Quote
OK, so I caught the pilot episode while I was at Comic-Con. It's okay (okay being so-so and not near as special as I expected). It could have been better, but I'm not complaining. Based on what was put in the pilot, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's canceled after 13 episodes.

No offense to anyone who sees it and likes it.

During the Q&A that was had afterwards, the creators said that the show completely ignores the fact that there ever was a T3, so everything follows T2 and goes where it wants.
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Posted on 08-04-07 11:16 AM Link | Quote
I knew it turned out bad anyway. Even though I watched those Terminator movies but the show dosen't even make a difference in comparison.
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Posted on 01-30-08 05:53 PM Link | Quote
Bumpage, since it's on now.

This show honestly doesn't seem -that- bad. If you go in seeing it as its own entity, it's not bad. The first episode is a little annoying though, basically taking a big dump on a lot of stuff we previously knew, but I guess that's no surprise since they had to setup the show somehow.

It's not epic. but it seems worth watching so far.
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Posted on 01-30-08 07:17 PM Link | Quote
It completely disregards that the books even exist, but oh well. You get to see Summer Glau naked, what more can you ask for?
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Posted on 01-30-08 07:59 PM Link | Quote
Honestly it's taking some rather interesting turns and while it's not my favorite show, it's still worth tuning in.

Here's a question, though, if Sarah and John somehow manage to stop Judgment Day, wouldn't that make John cease to exist?

In other news, I'm rather excited about this upcoming T4 movie featuring Christian Bale as John Connor.
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Posted on 01-30-08 08:28 PM Link | Quote
You can't stop Judgment day. The books clearly explain that, even though you can change the future and there are different timelines, everything tends to revert back to it's original form. That's why, even though they killed Dyson, Skynet still gets built.

You can't stop it, only postpone it.
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Posted on 01-30-08 09:09 PM Link | Quote

Speaking of continuity... read the comics. Read the books. Watch the movies. The continuity of the Terminator series is that there is no continuity. Every time something comes back in time, a completely new timeline is formed.


All in all if the Terminator series wanted to be perfect it should have stopped right after the first movie, with that one it'd be a neverending time paradox.
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Posted on 01-30-08 09:16 PM Link | Quote
There are so many others, though.

In the books the plans for plasma weapons are taken from the memory of a Terminator. Which means no one invents them. They find it in the Terminator, so that it can exist in the future, for the Terminator to take it back, for them to discover it, for it to exist in the future, for the Terminator to take it back, for them to discover it...
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Posted on 01-31-08 11:22 AM Link | Quote
So far the show seems decent. It hasn't really deviated from the first two movies as far as I can remember. Only three episodes have aired so far, so there's still time to screw it up.
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Posted on 01-31-08 01:33 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Zoso
Only three episodes have aired so far, so there's still time to screw it up.



I also truly wonder if people are watching the show without having seen the movies or have any prior knowledge. Would it even be possible to understand and enjoy it at that point?

A couple other anomalies:
- Along the same lines as plasma weaponry, Dyson gets a few ideas about machines from the chip and mechanized arm that were found. (Then again, I've thought about this with the same regard as the scene in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home where the Enterprise crew goes back in time to collect some humpback whales and Scottie tells someone in the 1980s how to make transparent aluminum because the crew needs it. McCoy informs Scottie that he's messing with history to which Scottie answers, "How do we know he didn't invent it?")

- One thing I really can't stand with the series so far with regard to John is that he's supposed to be this big, fearless leader, but Sarah keeps telling him to run. I know it's to save his life so he can fight another day, but how is he supposed to learn to fight if he's always retreating?

- Why do the machines, rather than sending terminators further back in time where people aren't going to remember being attacked (like say, if they killed off Sarah's grandfather or someone like that), keep sending people as John grows older?

- Also, if the machines they're sending back to kill John/Sarah keep becoming more and more advanced, why does John send back an increasingly obsolete model? In T3, Arnold was a T-850, but seriously?

- Lastly, supposedly the time transporter that Kyle Reese and the terminators take to get to Sarah and John's time period can only take living things through. Granted the cyborgs, being machines with living flesh, could probably cheat to get across, but the T-1000 was pure metal.


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Posted on 01-31-08 01:45 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rogue
- Lastly, supposedly the time transporter that Kyle Reese and the terminators take to get to Sarah and John's time period can only take living things through. Granted the cyborgs, being machines with living flesh could probably cheat to get across, but the T-1000 was pure metal.


I actually figured that the T-1000 was made from nanobots, which are essentially living organisms controlled by a computer program. But I never really payed enough attention to know either way.

Actually though, in one of the terminator movies, didn't the terminator sent to protect John Connor mention that he was a cybernetic organism? Maybe that would indicate him being partially kind of sort of alive.

As for the rest of what you said, I have no idea...maybe because the movie directors wanted to make a movie from the beginning of the attacks instead of the end of them?
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Posted on 01-31-08 02:05 PM Link | Quote
This show STILL hasn't even well for me. I don't barely see that show in the top 20 rating list in my newspaper.
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Posted on 01-31-08 02:09 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by FX
Originally posted by Nagis
My dad dosent believe this is gonna happen. Looked at me like a looser or something.


You mean he doesn' think it's going to succeed, or he doesn't think it's going to even be on? Because FOX already picked up the pilot.


No, he does not believe me that this show is on the Air.

Too much history channel, and not enough FOX.
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Posted on 02-04-08 02:24 AM Link | Quote
One thing that's sort of been bugging me since the first episode (which I'm also amused to find that entertainment critics have picked up on)--what's up with Summer Glau's terminator character having a personality throughout most of the first episode and once she's revealed that she's a cyborg, she has the vocal inflection of a brick?

I mean, she was able to joke and talk like a normal person and then suddenly she's Vicky from "Small Wonder."

"Bitchwhoremuch"?

My best guess is that since the first episode was the pilot, which was filmed well before the rest of the other episodes, Summer (or more likely the writers and episode directors) dropped the human impersonation.


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