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BBQMissile

ChaoticDeath









Since: 08-16-04
From: New York

Since last post: 4937 days
Last activity: 925 days
Posted on 07-27-05 03:54 PM Link
Though I am not part of this tournament, I question the method in which the challenges were brought out to each contestant. Instead of letting them choose a topic they felt they could strongly support, you literally force upon them some random topic...some that really don't have anything to do with recent events. And not only that, you didn't give them much of a choice to decide whether they were for or against. I mean, i can't imagine someone honestly debating to the best of their ability when they are for something but they are forced to debate against it.
Lord Vulkas Mormonus

Vile
High Xeodent of Xeomerica.








Since: 10-29-04
From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way

Since last post: 94 days
Last activity: 94 days
Posted on 07-28-05 10:11 AM Link
Like I said to Xeo,

This is not a debate as to what you think, instead it is a debate as to how good you are in finding information and arguments for a certain side, and posting it.

Also, I tell you which side you are on. If I say you are for something, that means that you must argue on the side of the topic. If I say you are against it, then that's what you are.
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering








Since: 10-03-04
From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta

Since last post: 2479 days
Last activity: 1330 days
Posted on 07-28-05 03:20 PM Link
And you expect people to be at their best debating against something that they may personally be in favor of?
Cyro Xero

Rune Mage

Rave Atom








Since: 02-23-05
From: Minnesota!!

Since last post: 49 days
Last activity: 49 days
Posted on 07-28-05 03:56 PM Link
Well if it's about how well you can support something with proof and information then it seems there won't be any heated agruments. A good limiter I'll say.
avatar of law

Beezo








Since: 12-29-04
From: paris, canada

Since last post: 5767 days
Last activity: 5767 days
Posted on 07-29-05 01:51 AM Link
Originally posted by Tamarin Calanis
And you expect people to be at their best debating against something that they may personally be in favor of?


this is why i like this guy so much

i felt that at least two ppl in this comp are going against their very nature and being put against something they believe in.
AlpoRaggins

Troubadour
Not so much dead.








Since: 12-11-04
From: Someday, Somewhere, Over the Rainbow

Since last post: 6612 days
Last activity: 6501 days
Posted on 07-30-05 10:41 AM Link
...m o n d a y ?

As in, last monday? Aw man. My keyboard broke and I couldn't be online. If I missed the debate, sorry bout that and give the win away, but if this hasn't even started yet I'm still up for it...
Lord Vulkas Mormonus

Vile
High Xeodent of Xeomerica.








Since: 10-29-04
From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way

Since last post: 94 days
Last activity: 94 days
Posted on 07-31-05 10:03 AM Link
Yeah, last monday. But don't worry, no one but you really seems to be in the mood for this tournament.
avatar of law

Beezo








Since: 12-29-04
From: paris, canada

Since last post: 5767 days
Last activity: 5767 days
Posted on 08-11-05 08:00 PM Link
when does this thing end again?


w00t, i am last to post on the last 5 debate topic XD
Azen Dalin

Thief








Since: 08-30-04

Since last post: 6623 days
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Posted on 08-11-05 10:08 PM Link
Originally posted by avatar of law
Originally posted by Tamarin Calanis
And you expect people to be at their best debating against something that they may personally be in favor of?


this is why i like this guy so much

i felt that at least two ppl in this comp are going against their very nature and being put against something they believe in.


Uh...yeah...its done all the time at school (I'm not concerned that this is not school, I'm using this as an example). You are given a topic and a side (it doesn't matter whether you believe in that side or not) you have to gather information for it. A "debate" may be what you believe in, but if you can't find any information based on your belief...then you really are screwed. How are you going to get people to believe your side of the story if there's no information on it?

(Last edited by Yuzukichi Kaze on 08-12-05 01:08 AM)
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering








Since: 10-03-04
From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta

Since last post: 2479 days
Last activity: 1330 days
Posted on 08-11-05 11:17 PM Link
Originally posted by Yuzukichi Kaze
Originally posted by avatar of law
Originally posted by Tamarin Calanis
And you expect people to be at their best debating against something that they may personally be in favor of?


this is why i like this guy so much

i felt that at least two ppl in this comp are going against their very nature and being put against something they believe in.


Uh...yeah...its done all the time at school (I'm not concerned that this is not school, I'm using this as an example). You are given a topic and a side (it doesn't matter whether you believe in that side or not) you have to gather information for it. A "debate" may be what you believe in, but if you can't find any information based on your belief...then you really are screwed. How are you going to get people to believe your side of the story if there's no information on it?
You think I like the way it's done in schools? Hey, news flash buddy, I don't like it at all, and I think it's a load of bullshit. So, hey, there went that comparison! But I'll elaborate.

So what if it's a test of how you can gather and present information? If you're arguing for something you don't believe in, you will not have NEARLY as much motivation or desire to do such. It'd be like me arguing for the existence of God - yes, I could try to find the information, but would I really want to?

(heh, we're debating about debates)

Edit: Oh, fuck. That comparison's gonna bite me in the ass, I know it...

(Last edited by Tamarin Calanis on 08-12-05 07:56 PM)
Lord Vulkas Mormonus

Vile
High Xeodent of Xeomerica.








Since: 10-29-04
From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way

Since last post: 94 days
Last activity: 94 days
Posted on 08-16-05 04:32 PM Link
And this round is over.

No one is out, and I will put no one as a loser, as almost no one actually perticipated.

Now we do something different. I will assign topics, and you will choose what topic, and what side to be on. This way, people may get what they want. These topics, as nothing happened in the last round, will be similar to before.

TOPICS:

Evolution.
War in Iraq.
Video games.
Guns.
The internet.
Aliens.

Now, choose your topic.
Xeios

You WANKER!








Since: 08-16-04

Since last post: 5073 days
Last activity: 1383 days
Posted on 08-17-05 06:02 PM Link
Can I register still or is it too late?
Lord Vulkas Mormonus

Vile
High Xeodent of Xeomerica.








Since: 10-29-04
From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way

Since last post: 94 days
Last activity: 94 days
Posted on 08-21-05 06:13 PM Link
Well, as we haven't really done anything, then you can take Avatar's place, assuming she doesn't want to still be in it.
shadowdude2

Koopa








Since: 08-28-05
From: California

Since last post: 6934 days
Last activity: 6774 days
Posted on 09-06-05 10:01 PM Link
If your going to have a second round i'm interested in joining as long as i get to pick my side on the topic. Please give me the new topics to choose from or if using the same topics pleases tell me.
Lord Vulkas Mormonus

Vile
High Xeodent of Xeomerica.








Since: 10-29-04
From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way

Since last post: 94 days
Last activity: 94 days
Posted on 09-11-05 05:01 PM Link
Okay,this was a failed attempt at making this. If no one else is really interested, could a mod please lock this?
The Accidental Protege

Iggy Koopa
I\"m your accidental protege...
The gift, the blood, the thrownaway...\"










Since: 03-08-05
From: Marching on the city of Southern Cross

Since last post: 1165 days
Last activity: 1165 days
Posted on 10-10-05 08:10 AM Link
I'm interested. I'll do it. I love to argue!
Lord Vulkas Mormonus

Vile
High Xeodent of Xeomerica.








Since: 10-29-04
From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way

Since last post: 94 days
Last activity: 94 days
Posted on 10-10-05 10:54 AM Link
Well, if some people actually decide that joining this is a good idea, then I could continue it. but when I suggested either idea, no one agreed to participate, even after they agreed.

If you get at least 6 people to join, I'll continue this.
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering








Since: 10-03-04
From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta

Since last post: 2479 days
Last activity: 1330 days
Posted on 10-27-05 10:51 PM Link
It's been over two weeks. I'm un-sticking this. If it starts back up, I'll resticky it.
Lord Vulkas Mormonus

Vile
High Xeodent of Xeomerica.








Since: 10-29-04
From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way

Since last post: 94 days
Last activity: 94 days
Posted on 10-28-05 07:02 AM Link
Just lock it please, nothing is ever going to come of this. I requested that earlier, but it never happened.
Astrophel
Fear will kill your mind and steal your love as sure as anything;
Fear will rob you blind and make you numb to others suffering








Since: 10-03-04
From: Azul Lux Orbital, Kirin Beta

Since last post: 2479 days
Last activity: 1330 days
Posted on 10-28-05 06:53 PM Link
Very well, then.

*slices thread with +9 Sword of Threadkill*
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